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AIBU to think...seriously???

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laughingmyarseoff Mon 19-Jan-15 11:56:59

I'm loathe to put a link and give this person a lot of clicks and activity so I'll refrain and just describe.

It's a man describing how he can get any woman because we're all wired genetically to fell for the tricks he knows. And of course he explains it but charges for the truth of it.

It starts off describing how he couldn't get dates:

He sounds like such a stalker with his crush imo. This woman he crushes on tries constantly to let him down but he doesn't get the hint. She even goes so far to say she's under house arrest! Comon, get a clue! Surely you'd know wouldn't you? No he calls/texts her shit loads instead, grabs food, a sexy nighty and sends flowers. He turns up at her house, sees her with what he calls 'joe average' (in comparison to him) and realises she's been trying to get rid of him the whole time.

Should she have been honest with him: hell yes. ButI wonder if she was and in his obsessive crushes he ignored it.

He just doesn't get how bad his behaviour was despite admitting she was shocked and freaked to see him on her doorstep. He sees it as him trying and failing with women because of the women but he admits to being so bloody clingy with his actions. A woman would be called clingy and desperate and the words were applying when I listened to him describing his interactions with his crush. It sounds more like stalking then anything else to me. Freaky.

Then it speaks about how all of us love fifty shades of grey and want an 'obsessive crush'. I agree some women love erotica, a lot more then people think, myself included but the way this guy speaks he's targeting women and sounds so stalkery.

What's worse is several people I know have liked it on facebook and I just have to shake my head.

I can see it maybe getting people into bed but maintaining a relationship? Just really made me feel uncomfortable (which to be fair it stated at the beginning) but I also disagree with it barr possibly getting you laid.

So AIBU to think if you behave as he has above with the constant texting, calling, emailing, sending gifts to someone who rejects you then it's bloody stalking! And that actually maybe it's that behaviour that should have been addressed not trying to manipulating women?

AIBU: Does anyone else agree that they love 50 shades and want something called an obsessive romance? Basically what you get in 50 shades.

I was torn between wondering what woe he is attracting and thinking his behaviour would have had me running if I'd been his crush then and now.

But maybe that's because I like erotica but loathe 50 shades of --shite'' grey.

Without me putting the link does anyone else know who i mean? I'd put the link but I really don't want to give it traffic and I really don't want people as baffled and annoyed as I was.

WorraLiberty Mon 19-Jan-15 11:59:09

I haven't read 50 shades

I take it you've told the guy all this?

What was his response?

Marshy Mon 19-Jan-15 12:02:13

He sounds like a knob and a bit weird.

I don't really get why you are so preoccupied with it.

RandomNPC Mon 19-Jan-15 12:03:18

Is it part of that unpleasant PUA scene?

BertieBotts Mon 19-Jan-15 12:10:05

Yep he's a pick up artist. I know exactly who you mean or it's a clone. (They've been around for a while even if less visible.)

It's abusive and if the new law goes through in the UK about coercive control, it will actually be illegal. Can't come fast enough IMO!

laughingmyarseoff Mon 19-Jan-15 12:12:34

WorraLiberty No I have no idea who he is, he's a pick up artist who is advertising his work on the internet. but he never states any contact details. He was linked in a friends facebook.

RandomNPC Mon 19-Jan-15 12:14:01

It's intertwined with that whole MRA thing too; inadequate lads who can't get themselves a GF railing against the injustice of it all, and how wicked and manipulative women are. They're a pain in the arse.

laughingmyarseoff Mon 19-Jan-15 12:14:39

Marshy. What a weird thing. Is there something wrong with seeing something that's seriously wtf and wondering if anyone else thinks it is?

Yes I id wondered which is why I'm asking mumsnet, am I preoccupied with it? Only in as far as seeing the responses from everyone here, in between watching the lovely Matt Smith getting all excited.

laughingmyarseoff Mon 19-Jan-15 12:16:25

RandomNPC I'd not heard of that but it does make sense. He seemed very 'im a nice guy, women are just confusing' while all the time describing behaviour that I know would put off most women and men!

laughingmyarseoff Mon 19-Jan-15 12:17:33

BertieBotts I think that's why it made me so uncomfortable. It spoke about training women and how we can't help ourselves we are slaves to our biology or rather his really weird version of it!

RandomNPC Mon 19-Jan-15 12:20:24

It's a whole weird subculture. A lot of these 'nice guys' are very anti-women when you scratch the surface.

BertieBotts Mon 19-Jan-15 12:21:50

That's exactly the problem with it. They come across as nice guys who just can't get sex from the meeeeeeeean mean women, oh sorry I mean vagina-keepers.

It's probably not the famous one who was denied entry to the UK and Australia. It's probably just one of the many who have been around for ages - it's just due to the internet they are gaining popularity. They're just inferior twats really.

They don't want relationships, either.

tomandizzymum Mon 19-Jan-15 12:22:29

I've no idea who this is or if these tactics would work with all women.
I read 50 shades, at first it was exciting but then every sex scene was the same shit. No variety, the erotica I've read has some variety at least. I found myself skipping the sex scenes to read the story bits. It didn't change my sex life, as my husband didn't even know I'd read the book and told me a year later that he'd heard about a book that changed women, probably hoping he'd get daily servicing wink. Told him I'd read it ages ago smile.

Marshy Mon 19-Jan-15 12:23:10

Only because if I saw something like this on FB I would think ' what a knob' and scroll on. No offence meant.

Looks like the opinions you have had here concur with your own

laughingmyarseoff Mon 19-Jan-15 12:25:57

Sorry Marshy , I thought you were picking. It was on someone very close to me's fb and I thought it was actually going to be a good link. Turned out it's made me think a bit differently about them.

laughingmyarseoff Mon 19-Jan-15 12:27:28

It's not very nice the presentation, he speaks about women like we're a science project or a tool. I can't honestly imagine being able to have a meaningful relationship with someone who feels that way.

laughingmyarseoff Mon 19-Jan-15 12:28:58

I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking 50 shades was not so good smile

This guy says he has a lot of girlfriends but doesn't show them or who he is - at least not on the link. He could be anyone for all I know though in fairness maybe that comes at the end and I clicked off after getting to 'pay me please'

BertieBotts Mon 19-Jan-15 12:29:10

Have they actually "liked" it though, because FB likes to tell you random friends have liked something when they actually haven't.

woodychip Mon 19-Jan-15 12:30:55

And you are giving it the time of day because.......?

laughingmyarseoff Mon 19-Jan-15 12:51:07

I'm not sure I'll check.

woodychip, if you mean why I'm wondering about it- why not?

Marshy Mon 19-Jan-15 13:01:32

Fortunately you won't have to have a meaningful relationship with him op. If I was you I'd be hitting the 'I don't want to see this' button.

People post and like all kinds if crap on fb dont they.Your thread has reminded me of some of the reasons why I deactivated my account 3 months ago. Not missing it.

laughingmyarseoff Mon 19-Jan-15 13:05:09

How do I do that Marshy? My phone doesn't take to fb too well.

Fortunately yes. I'm going to go onto the laptop later and see if he's properly liked it.

flora717 Mon 19-Jan-15 13:07:05

Anyone saying something will somehow work for ALL women or ALL men is obviously talking crap. We are different. Yes, there are a range of psychological tricks you can catch MANY people out with. But not ALL. Especially when you move that to something like attraction which is always subjective and influenced by many factors.
Facebook is rapidly becoming only for self promoting stuff. There are a lot less people using it.

Babycham1979 Mon 19-Jan-15 13:13:42

It seems very much in vogue to whinge about this kind of nonsense and conflate it with misogyny/sexism. It should be noted, though, that there's a ladies version too, which - I think - actually came out before The Game;

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rules

Predictably, it's encouraging women to be the superficial, materialistic obsessives of Sex and The City stereotype.

laughingmyarseoff Mon 19-Jan-15 13:17:48

Tricks, that's all it is yes and not ones to work on everyone I agree flora717

Babycham1979 I've scanned the rules and broken most if not all of them before

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