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are there more police out in London at the moment?

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buffythemuffinslayer Sun 11-Jan-15 18:44:15

I live in zone 2 and work centrally.

Every day last week I've seen policemen/women patrolling in London - cars and on foot.

I'm used to seeing them once, twice a week. Today at lunch we saw two lots - somewhere you'd expect to see a copper on Saturday night but not on a Sunday afternoon. DS 3.10 also noticed and said, 'lots of police, look mummy!' and they gave him a cheery wave.

TBH it's quite nice - makes everything feel like it's being taken care of, even if there isn't much that can be controlled.

So not really an AIBU, just wondering if anyone else has noticed the increase?

Mammanat222 Sun 11-Jan-15 18:49:43

Not noticed much difference myself. Live and work in zone 1.

Trapper Sun 11-Jan-15 18:57:41

Not noticed any marked difference on my route. Slightly more at London Bridge, but more likely to be down to crowd control issues with all the closures. We have been at a high level of alert for a while now so Seeing armed police/ high police presence is not unusual. I estimate I see about 10 individual police officers/ CSOs on my normal commute, with 2/3of these armed. This does not include those in cars, on the river or whizzing around in the whirlybird.

buffythemuffinslayer Sun 11-Jan-15 19:03:00

Ooh, what is the whirlybird? I like the sound of that.

Maybe it's just that I've been reading about the alert levels and am being 'vigilant' to the level advised by Charlie Brooker, so am noticing more.

I haven't been through London Bridge recently because of the crowding - opting to get the more relaxing, but longer, bus route.

buffythemuffinslayer Sun 11-Jan-15 19:04:58

Just Googled whirlybird. Will use this in future - much more evocative.

Redglitter Sun 11-Jan-15 19:05:07

There possibly are more this weekend for public reassurance that's not uncommon after something happens

Sushiqueen Sun 11-Jan-15 19:36:04

Had more police at Kings Cross last week when going in and out for work. Barriers were also closed in the morning which is unusual (we are of the first trains in, so normally walk straight through).

ChickenMe Sun 11-Jan-15 19:48:34

There's football most weekends at the moment. Palace played yesterday and so did Charlton. That would affect London Bridge?

January is quieter for Police as in its traditionally not as busy arrest wise. So more of them out and about rather than stuck in with prisoners?

drbonnieblossman Sun 11-Jan-15 19:53:17

There are more definitely - and the Jewish police are out in relative force too.

buffythemuffinslayer Sun 11-Jan-15 20:15:24

Kings Cross is interesting - don't go through often. Maybe because it's a link to The City? Or St Pancras?

I did read about the Jewish police - to my shame I previously had very little knowledge of them, but was very informative to read about.

Yes, maybe a combination of January, crowding and making people feel a bit more secure given recent events.

PigletJohn Sun 11-Jan-15 20:40:59

I don't see that any particular bunch of people in the UK has any right to call themselves the xxx police.

Quangle Sun 11-Jan-15 20:43:32

What are the Jewish police?

Just walked through Trafalgar Square with DCs. French flag is projected onto the National Gallery. And def lots of police around - more than usual.

Bair Sun 11-Jan-15 20:45:58

'I don't see that any particular bunch of people in the UK has any right to call themselves the xxx police.'

I thought there were laws against wearing 'military style' uniforms if you weren't in police or army etc. I'm sure they got some member of Britain First that way. Do we really have police for or run by one faith?

JeSuisCharliePan Sun 11-Jan-15 20:47:01

Jewish police - drive around in cars that look like police cars, get training and equipment from the Met police. Feel distinctly uncomfortable about this too.

Bair Sun 11-Jan-15 20:47:53

A quick google tells me there is. Not sure how I feel about that.

Muchtoomuchtodo Sun 11-Jan-15 20:56:48

I had no idea about The Jewish Police.

I'm not very comfortable about it now that I've had a very quick read. Which other religions would the Met consider working with in this way? Forgive my ignorance, but why Jewish and why not others?

littleducks Sun 11-Jan-15 21:30:49

Round here they don't dress like police officers especially, but in high vis coats with CST on the back. Look like security guards/bouncers to me more than police although I have never seen under the coats

I haven't had the best experience, but that might just be around here. They control the traffic (are a bit selective in that control and not always very polite or helpful to motorists who aren't attending their venues ime) around and outside Jewish schools and synagogues.

engeika Mon 12-Jan-15 00:16:40

Was in Piccadilly Circus this evening and there were four or five in a bunch outside the tube. Noticed several cars too. So yes more police I think.

PigletJohn Mon 12-Jan-15 02:06:48

Having looked up CST, it is not a police organisation.

I do not know if the people who use the term "Jewish Police" seek to give it a status it does not deserve, or seek to raise anxieties by suggesting that Britain has private police forces.

SamG76 Mon 12-Jan-15 09:38:31

The CST isn't a police organisation, but it works with the police. Clearly, the police can't be at every Jewish venue, but the CST isn't a private force and its people, who are volunteers, have no powers different from any individual.

Muchtoomuchto do - Hmm, I wonder why the Jews might think they need extra protection...? possibly because Jihadi groups are lining up to attack them. According to the papers, the police work with loads of minority groups, and the CST is used as the model of how to do it.

PigletJohn Mon 12-Jan-15 09:59:23

The Harlow Car flower festival might have traffic marshalls who work with the police. Nobody would call them the Flower Police.

JeSuisCharliePan Mon 12-Jan-15 10:21:11

I'm waiting for the Rastaman Van.

littleducks Mon 12-Jan-15 10:40:32

I wondered that PigletJohn, is it just lazy journalism that has ended up being copied on and on? I thought they were more like security guards than police

PigletJohn Mon 12-Jan-15 10:51:20

the term is reminiscent of the "religious police" that some places have, e.g. to keep men and women on different sides of the street, or to beat people who are not modestly dressed.

Britain has no need for interfering busybodies single-interest police forces, and IMO it is undesirable for them to have huge budgets.

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