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Hartlepool and the Rapist Ched Evans :(

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WeirdCatLady Sat 20-Dec-14 19:29:21

Oh dear. Please no.

Apologies for a DM link

OmnipotentQueenOfTheUniverse Sat 20-Dec-14 19:38:32

bbc link

OmnipotentQueenOfTheUniverse Sat 20-Dec-14 19:39:50

And this is the bit:

"However, Moore added: "He has made a mistake and maybe he hasn't apologised in the right way - and I know he has an appeal case pending - but if he gets on the park, he would go a long way to getting us out of trouble.""

ie if he can score goals I don't give a fuck about anything else.

Hatespiders Sat 20-Dec-14 19:51:37

It's a 'mistake' to rape someone? A mistake is to wrongly address a letter, or put too much salt in a recipe. To rape a young woman can't possibly have been an error surely? As in, "Ooops! I seem to have accidentally raped you. Sorry!"

DoraGora Sat 20-Dec-14 19:55:01

NY resolution. Don't forget, no raping this year...

simontowers2 Sat 20-Dec-14 19:56:09

Moore is not the sharpest tool in the box. In fact, he is thick as pigshit. let's hope the fans stand up against this.

Nokidsnoproblem Sat 20-Dec-14 20:06:17

Disgusting. I hope Evans himself realizes that this is a big mistake and does the right thing.

SorchaN Sat 20-Dec-14 20:06:18

Made a mistake? WTF?
And of course an apology made in the proper way would certainly alleviate his victim's trauma angry...

Storytown Sat 20-Dec-14 20:14:42

Tesco are one of Hartlepool's sponsors...just sayin'

The only way I can understand this at all is if "they" still don't know what he actually did. A "mistake", MAYBE, to have slept with a drunken woman who set out to end up in a footballer's bed but that is so far away from what actually happened.

iaintdead Sat 20-Dec-14 20:19:37

cos not many talented footballers around to choose from ?

as a monkey - hanger I am sickened.

TooHasty Sat 20-Dec-14 20:22:33

I am not a betting woman, but if I were I would put a bet on Ched Evan's conviction being overturned at this 'accelerated' Appeal .I don't agree with that, but I have the feeling that is what is going to happen

FreudiansSlipper Sat 20-Dec-14 20:22:54

sadly i am not surprised

would this not have to be agreed by some governing body

Storytown Sat 20-Dec-14 20:26:30

LOL TooHasty was that a deliberate reference to Moore's history? As simon said, he's not very bright.

Why do you think the conviction will be overturned? As I understand it that can only happen if the evidence at the original trial turns out to be flawed.

TinklyLittleLaugh Sat 20-Dec-14 20:27:34

<<Sigh>> poor people of Harlepool. Didn't they once hang a monkey? They're going to take a lot more jibing over this. Feel sorry for the supporters to be honest.

onthematleavecountdown Sat 20-Dec-14 20:28:23

A MISTAKE???? Oh well in that case, let's leave him alone to get on with his life. His victim will understand - MISTAKES happen


DoraGora Sat 20-Dec-14 20:34:18

I reckon the monkey wants no part of this.

TooHasty Sat 20-Dec-14 20:35:35

i don't even know who 'Moore' is
Just really that he seems to have a lot of support, and that he has got an appeal date so soon, when , in the normal way of things it would not be til 2017

MissPenelopeLumawoo2 Sat 20-Dec-14 21:02:45

He has to have grounds to appeal though, he can't just appeal on the basis he does not like the verdict, or that he has a lot of support. The appeals process should not take account of public opinion either way, it should be based on the law. He has had one appeal turned down. What has changed since then?

OmnipotentQueenOfTheUniverse Sat 20-Dec-14 21:09:14

He's been refused leave to appeal twice hasn't he? Could be wrong there. The current process is to decide finally whether he is allowed to appeal or not. So the idea that he has an appeal case pending is incorrect - he is waiting to find out whether he is allowed to appeal. Unless things have changed but I'd have thought the outcome of the current process would be in the news and I haven't seen anything.

OmnipotentQueenOfTheUniverse Sat 20-Dec-14 21:10:36

Basically this Moore chap is factually incorrect on about 3 counts in as many sentences.

AuntieStella Sat 20-Dec-14 21:15:47

I thought he'd been refused leave to appeal just the once, and was seeking a second go.

Am I right in thinking that to be granted leave to appeal, you need to demonstrate either a technical legal issue that needs to be resolved, or new evidence that could not have been brought to the original trial. What you can't do is keep going back and presenting the same evidence in slightly different ways, in the hope of a different verdict.

Hartlepool FC is league 2 (or division 4 in oldspeak). Which I think tends to show that the idea there woukd be decent clubs queuing up to sign a convicted rapist was very much misplaced.

Chippednailvarnish Sat 20-Dec-14 21:19:27

Quote from Moore; "He is a proven scorer; he's served his time and the boy wants to play football."

Awww didums.

AuntieStella Sat 20-Dec-14 21:19:33

Oh, and Hartlepool FC are bottom of League 2 at the moment, and facing relegation from league football.

That might make a manager with a murky past (Moore was sacked froma a previous club for breach of FA betting rules) interested in buying anyone who might score a few goals.

OmnipotentQueenOfTheUniverse Sat 20-Dec-14 21:20:13

I think that's right aunty they need to have new evidence etc you can't just appeal on the same bunch of stuff.

AuntieStella Sat 20-Dec-14 21:22:15

And, according to the BBC website, Moore was only named Hartlepool manager 4 days ago.

I wonder how long he'll last there? They've been through quite a few managers recently, and this now looks like another duff choice.

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