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To ask if you believe in witchcraft?

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superstarheartbreaker Sat 06-Dec-14 22:16:14

My exes mum was known as a " White Witch". In other words she was very into woo and practiced as a Chrystal healer, could sense energy, was psychic and was into all the new age bull shit. Vegan etc , etc.

I think a large amount of this is bullshit however there are a few incidents which made me think. One involved her son. He was v abusive and when we split up I felt very low. At the time she was thousands of miles away in the USA. She phoned me up in ters ( she had no idea we gad split up) and told me she knew how low I felt and tha I should hang on in there ( I felt suicidal) she said she could feel my pain. Wierd as last time we met I fine.

I don't agree with the way she raised my ex ( brought him weed for his bday etc) and a lot of what she believed in ( and how she enforced those beliefs) was questionable but I do think there was something a bit strange about her. ( my dad who is the straightest man on the planet even thought she'd put some kind of spell on me at one point -- although that was probably due more to her abusive son.)

My own feeling is that Wicca has some power but that any attempt to manipulate nature to ones own ends is not to be trusted.

Am I barmy???!!!

Icimoi Sat 06-Dec-14 22:17:21

No idea if you're barmy, but yes, witchcraft is all woo.

superstarheartbreaker Sat 06-Dec-14 22:20:07

What about people who are psychic?

FATEdestiny Sat 06-Dec-14 22:21:17

For fear of being slated, Wicca is not about manipulating nature to ones own ends.

A Wiccan "spell" is much the same as a Christian "prayer". Both are claimed to work by many and ridiculed by many.

ThirdPoliceman Sat 06-Dec-14 22:22:13

Nah, it's just a higher degree of woo.
Or better at cold reading?

raltheraffe Sat 06-Dec-14 22:22:37

It is possible to communicate with SOMETHING, but I am not convinced it is the spirits of the deceased. I am friends with one of the top mediums in the country and she tried to train me once, but I would not get involved as I think there is something really sinister about the whole thing.

FATEdestiny Sat 06-Dec-14 22:22:53

Psychic "powers" are just intuition. Lots of people have a strong sense of intuition.

Bearfrills Sat 06-Dec-14 22:22:55

No one is psychic. Some people are better at 'reading' people than others such as picking up on facial expressions, body language, etc and when you add in techniques such as cold reading it can be passed off as psychic powers.

In reality it's cobblers smile

DoubleValiumLattePlease Sat 06-Dec-14 22:23:02

Nobody is 'psychic'. Some people are good guessers. That's all.

ghostyslovesheep Sat 06-Dec-14 22:24:15


vestandknickers Sat 06-Dec-14 22:24:55

It is all woo and she sounds bonkers.

misskangaandroo2014 Sat 06-Dec-14 22:25:52

Again. Not sure of your current state of 'barmy'. But Wicca is a collection of practices, often practitioners self-selecting what that does / does not work. The lack of consistency makes it impossible to 'prove' any of it. So yes. Woo.
Did you ever consider the poor excuse for a man had mentioned in passing you had left and she (in a moment of sense) thought she (maybe she thought well of you) ought to get in touch (y'know pretending / denying even her wastrel son and you were no longer together).

Icimoi Sat 06-Dec-14 22:26:58

The phone call you cite was probably down to her son or someone else telling her you had split up.

Lazymummy2014 Sat 06-Dec-14 22:29:41

Re. psychics - to quote Tim Minchin, "they're either lying or mentally ill".

DoraGora Sat 06-Dec-14 22:29:52

I don't know. I think after a while of standing in running water and calling it my mother and calling the rustling of the wind in the trees my father, I could get used to it. I'm pretty OK with calling an imaginary guy in the sky, with a white beard, God. Whatever floats your boat, really.

WorraLiberty Sat 06-Dec-14 22:30:21

I see it as a load of manipulative claptrap, spouted by very self important people - and believed by very gullible people.

DoraGora Sat 06-Dec-14 22:31:59

What? You mean religion, politics or witchcraft? They would all seem to fit that definition!

Andrewofgg Sat 06-Dec-14 22:34:40

It's what you might call the Higher Bollocks. Forget it.

Branleuse Sat 06-Dec-14 22:36:38

yes I do believe in 'witchcraft' as a religion, Im not sure what youre asking?

Are there some strange people out there? yes.
Do some of them practice witchcraft? Of course.
Do I believe witches have magical powers and put weurd spells on people that actually work? Dunno, maybe some of them?

Is some of it bonkers? definitely.

superstarheartbreaker Sat 06-Dec-14 22:39:11

I don't believe in it tbh but round my way there are a few who do and tbh when she called me her description of me was down to a tee. Her wastrel son at the time had very little interest in how I felt and was hardly communicating so i know her call was genuine. ( was uncannily correct in its description ... Had not spoken or seen son for ages.)

WorraLiberty Sat 06-Dec-14 22:39:28

You really believe that some people have magical powers and that some spells work Branleuse? confused

superstarheartbreaker Sat 06-Dec-14 22:40:04

It is bonkers and very manipulative IMO.

WorraLiberty Sat 06-Dec-14 22:42:06

Sorry OP but you don't just randomly ring someone up in tears from the USA, telling them you know they feel suicidal etc, unless someone has mentioned the split.

Either that or she randomly rang you to see how you are, and heard it in your voice so she took it from there...

superstarheartbreaker Sat 06-Dec-14 22:42:49

WorraLiberty... That describes her to a tee " self important." However... Some strange shit went down at that time. I'm I'm very anti book ( mostly thanks to her and the effect it had on me and my life.)

DoraGora Sat 06-Dec-14 22:42:58

My own take on bollocks (whether religion, magic or politics) is that humans are intellectual pack animals, who must be led by some claptrap-spouting group of one kind or another, so, you might as well join the claptrap group that you feel most comfortable with.

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