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Ofsted Inspection - Is this unreasonable?

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BertieBrabinger Sun 30-Nov-14 14:29:33

How would you react if you were asked by a teacher at your DC's school to keep them out of school for the day of the inspection in case they were a disruptive influence? Is this something Ofsted recommend?

It's a bit weird, right?

stitch10yearson Sun 30-Nov-14 14:31:23

I would die of shame if a teacher said that to me about my dc. Not be posting it on mn.

GratefulHead Sun 30-Nov-14 14:32:29

Utterly wrong. DS is autistic and can rarely cause an issue if some thing has really upset him....usually involving him hiding under the display table in the reception area of the school. However, his school have action plans for coping with this when it occurs....whether OFSTED is there or not.

YouTheCat Sun 30-Nov-14 14:32:48

I'd send him in. If they are failing to handle his behaviour then they need to step up.

OFSTED would not recommend a child not being in school.

Minisoksmakehardwork Sun 30-Nov-14 14:33:49

I would be contacting ofsted to advise of the school's recommendation I think.

GratefulHead Sun 30-Nov-14 14:34:08

stitch has it occurred to you that the child might have an underlying problem such as autism? The OP has not said but as a TA I can tell you it is very rare for a child just to be disruptive with no underlying issues....either medical or social. A little more thought before posting would not go amiss!

Nomama Sun 30-Nov-14 14:35:19

So many schools do it though!

Sudden school trips, illnesses - oh! Who will pay the fine?

The school is shouting loud and clear that they are crap with kids with SEN.

Why not wait and write to the nice Ofsted man when he comes?

CrimboHornedSnowflake Sun 30-Nov-14 14:36:18

When did this happen though? The inspection must be over and done with as no school gets a weekend's notice these days unless you're in Norfolk

grumpyoldgitagain Sun 30-Nov-14 14:36:34

What YouTheCat said

Send him in and tell them to deal with it

I would also mention it to ofsted and ask them if it is normal for this request to be made

They must have a contact number or email address on the website so you can report the school for this

Cauliflowersneeze1 Sun 30-Nov-14 14:37:12

Sadly schools do this , it's funny that they nag you over attendance but when it suits them....

Send them in

GoldenKelpie Sun 30-Nov-14 14:37:47

Crumbs, I'd not be happy either. I work with 'challenging' children in a school and have been though a few inspections. Never have I known it happen that a child or children been asked to take time off during an inspection.

GratefulHead and YouTheCat are right, strategies should be in place anyway to support your child, it should not make a difference if the school is being inspected. This needs to be flagged up with inspectors imo because it implies that there is a weakness in this area that needs to be addressed, not swept under the carpet.

Coffeeinapapercup Sun 30-Nov-14 14:38:02

Completely unacceptable. Tell ofsted

MammaTJ Sun 30-Nov-14 14:39:33

I too would be ringing Ofsted and sending them in regardless of what had been said. If they could not deal with my child, ofsted would need to know about it.

My next move would probably be to change schools if they had highlighted their own failings so blatantly.

KittyandTeal Sun 30-Nov-14 14:41:46

That's pretty appalling. We've just been through inspection last week. I'm in a challenging school and I wouldn't dream of asking parents to keep children home.

It was Sod's law that they ended up speaking to the 2 non verbal kids in the class.

Personally I would be upfront and ask the teacher why. Then I would be telling them they had a choice, have your DC in or they tell the inspector why they're off.

Btw if ofsted got wind I'm pretty sure the school would be put into category.

CrimboHornedSnowflake Sun 30-Nov-14 14:41:57

Is this a hypothetical situation? The teacher has asked if you might consider it in the future when the inspection happens because Ofsted just don't give a weekends notice

sausageandorangepickle Sun 30-Nov-14 14:42:41

I'm a teacher and would be tempted to give him a bag of haribo for breakfast and send him in! grin

But with a serious head on, do you want him to be at a school who are struggling to manage him? SN or not, he will be spending a huge chunk of his life there and needs staff who can contain him and keep him safe, as well as teach him.

OFSTED are giving very little notice now, as they want to see what the school is like every day, not when everyone has had time to polish up the crappy bits, so they should see how school are managing your son.

CleanLinesSharpEdges Sun 30-Nov-14 14:43:03

I'd be waiting at the school door on the day of inspection to tell Mr or Ms Ofsted about the school's suggestion.

Then I'd be looking for another school.

stitch10yearson Sun 30-Nov-14 14:43:21

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NoelleHawthorne Sun 30-Nov-14 14:46:00

I've never heard of this in rl

indigo18 Sun 30-Nov-14 14:46:05

Of course, it's just possible that the child in question is badly-behaved and disruptive, but is does not have special needs. There are plenty such children. i would be keeping a low profile if my child was so badly behaved that I was asked to keep him off school.

NoelleHawthorne Sun 30-Nov-14 14:47:19

Agree with bad parenting hidden by a diagnosis. Sadly. A lot.

Stampysladygarden Sun 30-Nov-14 14:49:44

Oh for Gods sake. Diagnosis are handed out willy nilly and if you know someone who does report them.

I've never met any child with a diagnosis who did not deserve one.

Stampysladygarden Sun 30-Nov-14 14:50:05

That should be not handed out etc

Janethegirl Sun 30-Nov-14 14:50:49

I'd be sending him in too and contacting Ofsted. Then I'd look at alternative schools in the area.

AryaOfHouseSnark Sun 30-Nov-14 14:50:52

Oh Gosh, that's awful. I used to work in a school, we wouldn't dream of asking some of the children not to come in shock
It highlights a huge weak spot in managing behaviour, probably because of their shocking attitude.
Send him in, if he is a "bad influence" on others and this is an issue in the inspection, then hopefully they will have to work on improving their way of working.

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