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to thank Emily Thornberry profusely

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longfingernails Thu 20-Nov-14 22:46:09

She has just shown how much Labour detest the aspirational working class, the swingiest of swing voters. Labour will be hit with this again and again and again; ever denial and denunciation will just bring Labour's true views to a wider audience. Fundamentally, it will only reinforce the undeniable fact that Miliband's centre of gravity is firmly ensconced in Islington.

She has made a Tory/UKIP coalition, perhaps the best possible electoral outcome, much more likely. Thank you Emily!

Toadinthehole Thu 20-Nov-14 23:35:38

A total beat-up, in my opinion.

Summerisle1 Thu 20-Nov-14 23:38:04

I despair. Totally.

BOFster Thu 20-Nov-14 23:38:46

Reasons why anything to do with UKIP is a disaster for women.

AuntieStella Thu 20-Nov-14 23:42:39

I don't think Labour want to win.

They know the next govt will have to continue to make cuts, they don't seem to be making much headway with plans for what they would do (so much easier to criticise than state their plans) and they want to sot pretty I the sidelines until there is more money to do 'feel good' stuff again.

To use a loose domestic comparison, they want someone else to do all the nagging to get the revision done, and just wing in when a good exam result is actually on the cards.

scatteroflight Thu 20-Nov-14 23:55:55

Yanbu. She has demonstrated the contempt of today's Labour party for the working classes - they want their votes, but they don't want to stoop to representing them. Very sad. There are a couple of good Lab MPs left - Frank Field, Kate Hoey. But the rest? Urgh.

SinisterBuggyMonth Fri 21-Nov-14 00:02:05

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AskBasil Fri 21-Nov-14 00:07:49

I wonder why you categorise this particular person as "aspirational" working class?

What's aspirational about him?

What's the different between his aspirational working class-ness and unaspirational working-class-ness?

mymummademelistentoshitmusic Fri 21-Nov-14 00:10:30

I remember brown, calling a woman with legitimate fears, though put badly, a bigot. They're hypocritical tears that expect others to live with their unrealistic ideals.

Toadinthehole Fri 21-Nov-14 00:11:04

Roll on yet another two-minutes hate.

BakewellSlice Fri 21-Nov-14 00:12:01

I'd guess it's the white van AskBasil - it's associated with small businesses in my mind at least.

cherubimandseraphim Fri 21-Nov-14 00:15:54

Emily Thornberry did excellent work on low conviction rates for sexual violence against women. Though people seem to think a photo on Twitter is far more important confused

AskBasil Fri 21-Nov-14 00:20:04

Just watching Andrew Neill and apparently Emily T grew up on council estate.

So maybe she's not aspirational enough.

BakewellSlice Fri 21-Nov-14 00:23:21

Emily Thornberry appears to be an excellent MP with a background in human rights law (a natural Liberal I would have thought.) I just think her joke shows up her lack of instinct re ordinary people and reinforces the disconnect between Labour and it's former voters. Maybe time for Labour to rebrand and call itself London Labour?

Or the SNP could start a franchise south of the border.

BakewellSlice Fri 21-Nov-14 00:26:23

The council estate thing is odd, did she mix? I don't get how she did what she did if she grew up poor. It's the sort of unthinking mockery my young teenager comes out with because he's rather sheltered.

RichTeas Fri 21-Nov-14 00:27:46

YABU. She was just making a light hearted dig at possible UKIP voters. Didn't need to resign.

BakewellSlice Fri 21-Nov-14 00:29:25

It reads so differently depending on your point of view doesn't it?

FreudiansSlipper Fri 21-Nov-14 00:31:50

There will never be a Tory/UKIP coalition

she was foolish but there is something far more important going on. It makes Ed look more assertive so it may turn out to work in labours favour in time

AskBasil Fri 21-Nov-14 00:33:16

Yes I think it's difficult to know what the hell the point she was making ws tbh.

BakewellSlice Fri 21-Nov-14 00:35:58

Which goes to show politicians should not be tweeting.

chopinbabe Fri 21-Nov-14 00:56:09

I don't know about the council estate but as her father was assistant General Secretary to the United Nations (according to her profile on the BBC website) it would suggest that she didn't grow up worrying about how school trips were going to be paid for.

However, for all I know the going rate for assistant General Secretary to the United Nations could just be minimum wage.

This is absolutely mind-boggling. I saw the image she'd tweeted to cause said resignation and thought, oh aye, what's she said? Whole world of rude possibilities.

'Image from Rochester'. Oh. hmm OK.

So just to recap: letting kids drown in the Med - good; breaking up the NHS to sell to your mates - fine and dandy; tweeting a picture of England flags - instant resignation. I am just having a massive WTF? moment over this.

Also, is it not patronising in itself to say that the 'aspirational working classes' are prone to cover their houses in St George flags? Because no-one in my town got that memo. Maybe <1% do in the World Cup...

chopinbabe I think her parents divorced when she was young, so her father's high-flying career is not necessarily inconsistent with the mum and kids being penniless on a council estate. Unfortunately.

Dawndonnaagain Fri 21-Nov-14 08:50:48

Oh do pack it in longfingernails it's boring now.

outofcontrol2014 Fri 21-Nov-14 08:54:31

Labour urgently need to sack their entire communications team and their leader and start again.

LeopardInABobbleHat Fri 21-Nov-14 08:59:23

It's like media training and advice never troubles their minds, isn't it.
I don't think it's representative of Labour thinking, however, just one person's stupidity.

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