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to think that spending money this recklessly might fall into the category of mental illness?

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ReputableBiscuit Sat 08-Nov-14 09:01:20

The writer seems to have a compulsive and uncontrolled relationship with money: www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2825892/Ruined-Readers-know-JACI-STEPHEN-waspishly-witty-TV-critic-laughter-lonely-woman-confesses-s-lose-house-blowing-1m-desperate-bid-buy-happiness.html

ssd Sat 08-Nov-14 09:05:47

obviously she did the article for payment, but how can she open herself up to the world like this? I'd die of embarrassment.

Stupidhead Sat 08-Nov-14 09:14:05

Oh I wondered what happened to her. She did another story years ago about how she'd abuse alcohol and shag randoms. Nice.

AlfalfaMale Sat 08-Nov-14 09:35:34

I thought that's quite a good article actually. I don't know of the lady in question so have no idea of her back story, but it seems obvious that she's made a large amount of money over the years so must have been reasonably successful within the parameters of her industry.

As far as her behaviour goes, I don't think she's any different from the vast majority of people you'll see any weekend rammed into shopping centres up and down the land. It's just that as the numbers get bigger, the story becomes more "newsworthy."

"Mental illness"? Well you could argue I suppose that people who behave like this now, in the light of so much information being available about how spending beyond your means can be ruinous, are somewhat foolish. But you might also look to our media, retail corporations, and even successive governments, and question their part in creating the "have have have" society we now seem to love in.

AlfalfaMale Sat 08-Nov-14 09:38:44

Oh, meant to add: by "quite a good article," I was referring more to her journey recently and conclusions, rather than the financial porn of details about how much she spent and what she spent it on - which is almost part of the problem :/

listsandbudgets Sat 08-Nov-14 09:40:17

I feel sorry for her. What a mess she's made of her life. I wish she'd listened to her friends years ago when they'd asked what she aws running away from. I think the answer was herself.

She was trying to live the life of a multi millionaire of a quarter of a million income. It wasn't going to work. She could have had a nice house in Cardiff plus maybe one other and enjoyed an amazing and happy lifestyle. Flitting about the world buying properties here and there and trying to buy friendship by showering money and expensive gifts on people wasn't the way to do it sad

mallardgreen Sat 08-Nov-14 09:45:17

There's a lot of lonely people out there and every piece of advice that encourages you to abet loneliness involves spending money.

TurquoiseDress Sat 08-Nov-14 10:16:38

I think she seems very lonely and was trying to buy the affections of others.

It wasn't just her multiple properties, the bits I was most shocked about was the spending on others.

Picking up the bill for others she was dining with in expensive restaurants, having a private box & picking up the food/drink tab.

That is somebody desperate for others to like her...by spending money on them.

I knew a girl at school who used to buy sweets & ice cream for literally everyone. She was trying to buy friendship.

Felt quite sorry for her despite her going on about her 'multi-millionaire' parents. I don't think they were quite that- she'd wouldn't have been at the local state school for a start!

KnackeredMuchly Sat 08-Nov-14 10:27:07

I agree with Alfalfa. I found it an interesting read, a nice change from the usual antagonistic DM articles. It must be so easy to wind up down that road thinking you have it right by 'owning' property.

I hope she can find money in the interim, it sounds like she has a long term plan

raltheraffe Sat 08-Nov-14 10:41:29

It depends on how you define mental illness. Does she have an illness as defined by DSM 4/ICD 10 the psychiatric classification systems? Unlikely. Does she have issues with self-esteem and traits of a personality disorder? Very likely.

HairStylistToBoris Sat 08-Nov-14 10:53:14

Yabvu to expect me to open a link to the daily mail...

divingoffthebalcony Sat 08-Nov-14 10:58:14

Does she have issues with self-esteem and traits of a personality disorder? Very likely

I have to agree. She obviously has massive issues with impulse control, plus a desperate need to buy people's love and friendship.

In a way, I'm amazed it's taken this long for the shit to hit the fan. Her spending sounds astonishing and her earnings were hardly big bucks. Enough to be extremely well off, sure, but not super wealthy.

SofaCanary Sat 08-Nov-14 17:30:36

The poor impulse control thing is often linked to bipolar disorder, not sure if that's the case with this poor woman though.

afterthought Sat 08-Nov-14 19:08:09

I really feel for the lady. I have debt caused by overspending - nowhere near hers - my total debt is round half my annual income.

I've never felt wanted or loved, so I bought things that made me feel worth something.

I have a plan to make things right before it is too late, but with no support network it is hard.

I think the worst bit is that you can't confide in people as the response is often 'stupid woman'.

Stealthpolarbear Sat 08-Nov-14 19:10:59

Knack erred her long rpterm plan involves spending her pension I believe

raltheraffe Sat 08-Nov-14 19:18:39

Sofa may be right here.

I have bipolar and have had some crazy spending sprees (best was getting a new Mercedes and a Porsche in one week). The purchasing of a saxophone out the blue because she wanted to be like Lisa Simpson is suggestive too.

The other big clue for bipolar would be the fact she has had a drink problem in the past. There is a high correlation between bipolar and addiction. Russell Brand is a good example of that.

Now I have carefully re-read the article I would say bipolar.

EssexMummy123 Sun 09-Nov-14 12:01:38

Wow - I hope she's getting some good financial advise now and following it.

Suzannewithaplan Sun 09-Nov-14 12:06:55

‎In order to establish whether the behavior is indicative of mental illness we need first to establish what are the criteria for mental illness ‎

raltheraffe Sun 09-Nov-14 12:23:51

The criteria for bipolar are clearly published and listed in DSM 4

Suzannewithaplan Sun 09-Nov-14 12:38:40

‎Doesn't it shift quite a bit though, the criteria for bipolar are wider than they used to be as are‎ those for mental illness in general.
There's a whole line of argument that this suits the purposes of pharmaceutical companies very nicely ‎

Suzannewithaplan Sun 09-Nov-14 12:44:44

Joanna Moncrief and Ethan Watters (amongst others) are quite interesting on the subject (I may have misspelled the names)

SophiaPetrillo Sun 09-Nov-14 12:47:37

I used to read her soap column as it was really funny and spot on and her contributions to This Morning were good as well, but over the years she seemed to become less funny, louder and more attention seeking. I feel for her though, I hope she can sort herself out.

FestiveFox Thu 13-Nov-14 17:19:13

I was shocked to read this

I think she just needs love
I agree it can be a mental health issue

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