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To wish the Labour party would find a way to get rid of Miliband

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Viviennemary Fri 07-Nov-14 18:36:42

Just that really. Why are they heading towards defeat. They might as well give up now. I'm not voting Labour but I might be persuaded if they had a change of leader. I wonder what the odds are of him going before the next election.

2tired2bewitty Fri 07-Nov-14 18:43:41

I don't think Labour really want to get in this time around as they'd have to introduce loads of cuts too. Much better to hang on till 2020 when there might be some money and they can look all bountiful. And so the cycle continues.

KnackeredMuchly Fri 07-Nov-14 18:54:53


fairgame Fri 07-Nov-14 19:02:39

I feel a bit sorry for him. He gets ridiculed in the press and he is a very weak leader but i can't help but think he's probably a really nice guy.
But YANBU, labour will not win with Ed. They need Alan Johnson to lead them IMO.

professornangnang Fri 07-Nov-14 19:07:05

I don't see what's wrong with him. I think the Daily Mail have been vile to him.

hiddenhome Fri 07-Nov-14 19:08:36

Good that they can't get rid of him. Hopefully it'll mean that they won't be voted in to ruin the country again. We need a few more years to try and recover before another round of Labour Lunacy hmm

cingolimama Fri 07-Nov-14 19:14:11

YANBU!!!!!!!! Many are fed up with coalition politics and it's really Labour's election to lose. But lose they will, with Ed at the helm. He may be a nice guy, but so what? He's deluded in thinking he can lead a party to victory let alone lead a country.

HaroldLloyd Fri 07-Nov-14 19:15:33

He isn't very inspiring.

Because he talks like the creature comforts turtle.

hiddenhome Fri 07-Nov-14 19:18:42


MaryWestmacott Fri 07-Nov-14 19:24:44

YANBU, but unless he decides to put his party first and resign, it won't happen,

DangerousBeanz Fri 07-Nov-14 19:25:53

He'll never be PM much as I want Labour to win. But to be honest I don't knowwho else they've got who is a better bet. Ed Balls is better but not much. Jack straw would have been great but he's now yesterdays man. Why didn't they elect David Milliband as Leader?? It's all too late now.

MaryWestmacott Fri 07-Nov-14 19:30:20

...the Labour Party have a history of putting loyalty above winning, the hung on to kinnock, they hung on to brown, and in London they let livingstone stand again against the man who beat him the time before!

The Tories are not so sentimental, one sniff of a defeat and the knives sharpen.

I do wish labour would learn, loyalty is all good and well, but you can't do anything without winning power. Milliband is not a winner

Rebecca2014 Fri 07-Nov-14 19:32:00

I feel sorry for him. He can't help the way he looks and that seems be the main problem...

EdithWeston Fri 07-Nov-14 19:37:42

I think 2tired2bewitty is right.

It's nonsense timing for this to have come up now. Although a Labour leader can resign at any time, they can only be challenged/ousted at their Conference, and a new one can be elected only at said Conference. Which is held every autumn. So next one not until late 2015.

Every Labour MP would know that it is impossible for the party to have a new leader before the General Election.

So why are they whiffling on about it?

OTheHugeManatee Fri 07-Nov-14 19:50:22

I'm really hoping he hangs on. The longer he clings, the less the chance of Labour getting in next year grin

handcream Fri 07-Nov-14 20:05:28

Can you see him on the world stage representing the UK?

He really doesn't have a clue

dogscatsandbabies Fri 07-Nov-14 22:10:48

Interesting... I'd not even considered that a party might not actually want power but that makes perfect sense! I can't think of anything more nightmarish than trying to sort out the shit we're in right now.

I'm very, very left leaning but Ed could never have my vote. I'm mature enough to realise that the ability to deliver a speech and look good in a photo REALLY matter if you lead a country in this day and age. Sad but true.

If only there was a party I actually want to vote for. Quite disheartening that they all seem horrendous.

longfingernails Fri 07-Nov-14 23:03:28

His Islington/Guardian/MN/BBC type political outlook turns off great swathes of the country. He is less popular than Nick Clegg, and looks like he will be the first Labour leader in a generation to lose in Scotland.

In short, YABU. He is the best hope that the small-c conservative movement have for another 5 years in power.

TheAwfulDaughter Fri 07-Nov-14 23:19:06

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CaptainAnkles Fri 07-Nov-14 23:23:05

People are supposed to vote for policies rather than whether the party leader has a nice voice.

CaptainAnkles Fri 07-Nov-14 23:23:13

People are supposed to vote for policies rather than whether the party leader has a nice voice.

Crazyative Sat 08-Nov-14 00:07:18

Yet, despite Ed Milliband's unpopularity, a hung parliament is predicted with Labour winning far more seats than the Conservatives meaning that currently, Ed is most likely to end up leader of another coalition. This is what polls predict and some of them take into account historical differences between polls and final results of UK elections. I've looked at polls on the left, right and middle leaning media sites, academic sites and all manner of other political forecasting sites run by geeks — and they're all pretty much saying the same thing. The current issue seems to be more about how could a coalition government be formed — as Labour and LibDems are unlikely to have enough MPs to create a majority. One political journalist in the Guardian says this all points to a Borgen-style coalition situation meaning that all sort of smaller parties might get in on a coalition.

I read in various papers that there are ways to get a new leader for Labour with out a leadership contest — right wing press believe those plots are afoot already. The Independent and others think Yvette Cooper is the best contender, you can judge for yourselves:

Next election might be a very different contest to the current poll predictions if Labour do manage to replace Ed.

I'm not into slamming people for the way they talk or the way they look; it's very, very sad that the biggest qualification for being a custodian of the economic and social welfare of our nation is how good the candidate sounds, looks or entertains, rather than what they think, say or do.

MeMyselfAnd1 Sat 08-Nov-14 00:12:42

I agree, I think many people who would vote labour will not because they don't like Milliband. I yhink he has goid intentions but I can't get past the idea that he decided to go against his own brother, who seemed to be made of better material to be a PM.
But I agree with the others, far too late to change (I would vote Labour if they did though)

Mitzyme Sat 08-Nov-14 07:35:23

Labour have completely underestimated the Scottish voters and are predicted to lose many seats there in May.
Andrew Neil (BBC2) yesterday told the Labour Spokesman on his show that there are planes,trains and motorways to Scotland and he had better get himself up there as he had no clue that there was a problem for Labour.
This is the reason Joanne Lamont resigned. Complete disinterest from Westminster.

HaroldLloyd Sat 08-Nov-14 08:10:49

I am giving an opinion based on why I think he is failing to connect with the voting public.

I will vote labour again like I usually do I expect, turtle or no turtle.

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