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To think that someone convicted once for downloading child likely to re-offend? [Title edited by MNHQ]

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Coastly56 Sun 19-Oct-14 10:54:01

Someone who has been in prison once for downloading child porn and then caught again and received a caution is likely to offend again?

ThinkIveBeenHacked Sun 19-Oct-14 10:56:37

I agree. However I do ask that you dont call it "child porn".

It is child abuse. Pure and simple.

However, that aside, yes. There are certain personality traits / sexual desires that are incurable and Pedophilia is one of them.A pedophile is always (imo) going to be one. Whether they act on it or not, that desire will never ever leave them.

DoughnutSelfie Sun 19-Oct-14 11:03:34

Yes agree OP

Nb Another plea for the disuse of 'child porn' here

Coastly56 Sun 19-Oct-14 11:09:58

Yes I'm sorry if that caused offence.

Iggi999 Sun 19-Oct-14 11:11:51

It should also be in your thread title - some mumsnetters personally affected by this and may not want to click on threads accidentally

Coastly56 Sun 19-Oct-14 11:13:41

Apologies for that too. I am personally affected too.

Fairenuff Sun 19-Oct-14 11:15:15

I this someone you know OP?

Coastly56 Sun 19-Oct-14 11:18:27

Yes unfortunately

Coastly56 Sun 19-Oct-14 11:21:56

My daughters father.

Fairenuff Sun 19-Oct-14 11:21:59

Do you want to tell us a bit more about it, OP? Have you ever spoken to anyone in rl?

raltheraffe Sun 19-Oct-14 11:22:42

Whether or not he reoffends depends on a lot of factors, including the level of support he is given at modifying his behaviour, and how closely he is monitored. It also depends on whether he accepts what he is doing is very damaging to children and if he wants to change for the better.

Fairenuff Sun 19-Oct-14 11:22:57

Sorry x posts with you there. I'm so very sorry that you're going through this at the moment. Have you separated?

raltheraffe Sun 19-Oct-14 11:25:05


That is wrong, paedophilia is very difficult to treat but it is not incurable.

Coastly56 Sun 19-Oct-14 11:25:28

He's not been able to access any treatment as they only offer it for custodial sentences. Yes I am no longer with her father for obvious reasons. I am so sad that she won't be able to have a normal relationship with her father.

raltheraffe Sun 19-Oct-14 11:27:49

That is appalling. Surely all child sex offenders should get access to treatment. If it only stops one child being abused it is worthwhile.

raltheraffe Sun 19-Oct-14 11:28:48

What happens about contact OP? Is he allowed contact in a supervised contact centre or have the courts recommended no contact at all?

Coastly56 Sun 19-Oct-14 11:29:22

Exactly but unfortunately it doesn't happen. They have to have long enough custodial sentences to access treatment programmes.

Coastly56 Sun 19-Oct-14 11:30:26

All contact has to be supervised. Family facilitate this to avoid the contact centre route.

Fairenuff Sun 19-Oct-14 11:30:26

Did he spend time in prison though? Was that not a custodial sentence? Has he told you that he can't access treatment.

Fairenuff Sun 19-Oct-14 11:32:11

Oh, sorry x post again. There are counselling services available which he could access himself, he would not have to be referred but he might have to pay. Places like Childline and NSPCC would probably be able to point him in the right direction.

Coastly56 Sun 19-Oct-14 11:32:21

Yes but only 3 months and no it wasn't offered

raltheraffe Sun 19-Oct-14 11:37:21

Does he want to change? Does he feel guilty over his deplorable behaviour or is he lacking insight into what he has done?

Coastly56 Sun 19-Oct-14 11:37:56

Yes he wants to change

Fairenuff Sun 19-Oct-14 11:42:49

The thing is Coastly, he can't just change. There is something fundamentally wrong in his brain to make him think/feel/behave like that. He can't just make that go away, he will always be a risk, especially if he is not seeking treatment.

Is he trying to get you to allow him access to your dd without the other family members there? What has prompted you to post today?

ChippingInLatteLover Sun 19-Oct-14 11:45:11

Coastly I am sorry you and your DD are going through this sad

Wanting to change and being able to change are two different things. I might want to change being short, but I can't and I honestly believe this is the same.

I don't believe he can be rehabilitated. It's not like rehabilitating a thief, you can make them see the harm they do, they can understand, they can stop being a thief, it doesn't stop them thinking about thieving, but that's harmless... you can't change the 'thinking' of someone like your daughter's father, he might (but I doubt it, as he has proven!) be able to stop downloading stuff, but he wont ever stop seeing children as something he desires sad

He would have no contact with my children, none.

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