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wakeupandsmellthecoffee Tue 03-Jun-14 21:35:32

Long story .I work in a school .A friend was in school over half term .A holiday club is run from the school building but is an independent company
Friend saw one of the children that she knows attends school returning too the club at lunchtime in a club staff members car .
She was worried about insurance and this child has certain special needs that can make him controlling .She mentioned this to me at lunchtime today.
I asked child about half term this morning and what he had been up to .He mentioned holiday club .I asked if he enjoyed it and what sort of things they do there.
He said it was good and that he went to a local shop with so and so to pick something up .I said oh does mum know he said no but it was ok as they were her friend .I said oh ok .
Now with my friend mentioning it and asking does she need to do anything I'm asking wise mumsnetters what they think .

A . it's holiday club so not schools business.
B .It just dosnt sit right with me as in what if something happened while they are out 're car .
C .Not my business.
So do I need to do anything or not Help please advice me .TIA

BrianTheMole Tue 03-Jun-14 22:36:05

No harm in mentioning it to the mum in passing if you're worried. I would. I wouldn't have a problem with others mentioning to me either, even if it was completely legit. I wouldn't think they were being nosey, just concerned. Theres no problem with that.

wakeupandsmellthecoffee Tue 03-Jun-14 22:37:32

Thanks ladies all your points make sense .The bigger picture .I think I will just leave it though.

NeedsAsockamnesty Tue 03-Jun-14 22:39:50

If this person is the mums friend why on earth wouldn't they tell the mother they went off with the child?

HolidayCriminal Tue 03-Jun-14 22:44:40

I really wish on Mn we had the option to completely blank out some posters msgs.

Coldlightofday Tue 03-Jun-14 22:50:44

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mindthegap79 Wed 04-Jun-14 07:27:23

Yes, which ones?

LottieJenkins Wed 04-Jun-14 07:39:51

Some children at the school/college that my ds2 attends have to have two staff with them in the car/minibus in case they have a violent outburst.

FourForksAche Wed 04-Jun-14 07:43:50

I'd mention it to the school, they're in a position to either reassure you or sort the problem out.

AramintaDeWinter Wed 04-Jun-14 07:58:58

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QuizzicalCat Wed 04-Jun-14 08:05:17

Agree with Araminta.

lifesavingnoodles Wed 04-Jun-14 08:09:41

id mention it to the school, for your own peace of mind.

if everything is above board then thats terrific
if, as you suspect, it isnt....then the right people know.

I work as a CM and i have to consider these type of things on a daily basis. I would be perfectly happy to be challenged about any of my decisions....becuase I dont do anything I shouldnt.

mindthegap79 Wed 04-Jun-14 08:23:56

Quite right. You have a safeguarding duty to notify your cp officer or the head, then you can happily forget it. It's up to them to judge whether they need to take it any further or not. I'm the child protection officer at my school - all you need to do is tell them.

JennyCalendar Wed 04-Jun-14 08:26:19

I'd pass it on to the Child Protection Officer at school. They can then make the call about what to do and you can have a clear conscience.

riskit4abiskit Wed 04-Jun-14 08:32:56

Totally report to child p officer in school. Better safe than sorry in all situations although this one sounds dodgy to me.

BeckAndCall Wed 04-Jun-14 08:45:36

Presumably if the child had been signed into the holiday club by the mum, she will have had a full list of activities and circumstances that would apply ( including whether or not he can go in a helpers car).

The holiday club will also have had a full disclosure of the child's SN as part of the sign up process.

The holiday club helpers will have had a full CRB check and may also have accredited competencies in childcare care ( eg NVQs)

My instinct would be to assume that all of the above apply - full disclosure, CRBs etc and that there was therefore nothing to worry about.

AramintaDeWinter Wed 04-Jun-14 08:53:07

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AramintaDeWinter Wed 04-Jun-14 08:56:39

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Gubbins Wed 04-Jun-14 11:21:29

There are no possible downsides to you reporting. If it's all above board, the club aren't going to accuse you of being a 'sticky beak'. They'll be au fait with safeguarding issues, recognise why it may look concerning and be able to reassure you that everything's ok.

And if it's not all ok, you could avert a serious incident or be giving the management the opportunity to correct procedures that could result in real problems with ofsted. It's a no brainer.

ChickyEgg Wed 04-Jun-14 12:09:21

Don't you have a reporting procedure in your school, Op? Who is your Line Manager? Ask their advice.

MidniteScribbler Wed 04-Jun-14 12:21:18

My car insurance is actually paid for by work (along with the insurance of the other year coordinators) as I am lead supervisor on most class trips/camps relating to our grade or some other activities. This is in case there is an accident or illness or other incident on the excursion. I also get ridiculously bus sick so it means I can drive and it doesn't ruin my credibility with the students. My car is legally covered and insured to transport students in an official capacity.

If you work in the school, surely you having a quiet word to whoever is responsible for the holiday club would be the first step? At our school it would be a case of an informal chat (to find out the facts) before taking it any further. In most cases, that informal chat would be enough for the person responsible to take it further if there was evidence of wrongdoing.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo Wed 04-Jun-14 12:30:22

I think you should report it too. If it's all legit then no harm done.

mythbustinggov Wed 04-Jun-14 12:35:45

Rule 1 of Safeguarding - in in doubt, speak out.

The school (and the holiday club) should be fine with this - if not, then the school should consider it's lettings policy.

mythbustinggov Wed 04-Jun-14 12:36:13

Bottom. If in doubt

wakeupandsmellthecoffee Fri 06-Jun-14 17:40:37

Just to update I saw holiday club manager today and I mentioned it to her.She was away last week so didn't know .She was horrified and she is going to deal with it.

FourForksAche Fri 06-Jun-14 17:54:36

that's great news wakeup, you did the right thing. wine

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