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AIBU?

for not giving up my seat on the tube?

37 replies

MajesticWhine · 30/05/2014 09:43

I was travelling home from work on the tube yesterday. A woman had a baby in a large buggy on the tube. She appeared to be with a friend. It was fairly busy, but not heaving. After a minute or two of this baby crying, she picked him up and gave him a cuddle. Little one carried on moaning. After another few minutes, a man got up and offered her his seat, which she accepted. And he then started on a long and quite loud tirade against all the other passengers who did not get up and give her a seat. He was saying to another passenger, "Just look at all these women who wouldn't give up their seat. I bet most of them have children of their own. They are ABSOLUTELY USELESS". And so on, repeating several times, very irate. He looked in my direction several times. Now, I confess, I was sitting in my seat and had not really had the thought of getting up to offer my seat. It wasn't that I thought "I'm not giving mine up". The thought just never entered my head that they were in need of a seat. I felt a bit bad, maybe I was being thoughtless.

A few stops later, I got up to get off the tube, and the angry man was blocking the door and looking at me and sighing and tutting, as I tried to shimmy past him. Was he unbelievably rude and inappropriate or was I being unreasonable to not give up my seat? Or maybe both?

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expatinscotland · 30/05/2014 09:45

He is a cock. Ignore.

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ZacharyQuack · 30/05/2014 09:45

I wonder why that man thought he was more entitled to a seat than a woman was.

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Guitargirl · 30/05/2014 09:46

He was being very rude. Just ignore.

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OwlCapone · 30/05/2014 09:46

How about all the men who didn't give their seat? Why didn't he get earlier...?

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StillStayingClassySanDiego · 30/05/2014 09:46

He acted like a tit, I don't think you did anything wrong.

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coffeeinbed · 30/05/2014 09:47

Arse

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Meanderdeander · 30/05/2014 09:47

He was very rude. I am surprised more people didn't offer their seat but he was still very rude.

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MellowJello · 30/05/2014 09:47

Think he was super rude. Good on him, but how sanctimonious and self-congratulatory. But then I wouldn't have given my seat up either. Happy to give up seat for pregnant, disabled, elderly passengers or small children who would be unable to hold on properly, but are too big for buggy. Other than that, seat is mine. Grin

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EasyWhiteChocolate · 30/05/2014 09:47

I would have offered my seat (for the lady holding the baby, not her friend), but YANBU, he is. It only takes one person to give their seat to another - why did he need to wait for someone else to do it? And what does it matter that you were women and could be parents themselves? Are only women parents? I must have missed that one.

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BrianTheMole · 30/05/2014 09:48

He's a twat.

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Billygoats · 30/05/2014 09:52

But she has a buggy for her baby so she didn't need the seat. If it was a bus and she'd made to collapse her buggy then yes I would say she needed a seat to hold her baby in her lap.

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mousmous · 30/05/2014 09:52

yanbu
if the woman needed a seat she should just have asked politely.

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KellyElly · 30/05/2014 09:58

If you were sitting on one of the seats designated for disabled people, old people and those carrying children then YABU, otherwise no. I would have got up though.

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PicaK · 30/05/2014 09:58

He's an idiot. Ignore. If you'd refused to give up your seat when someone asked then yes you would be unreasonable. He probably doesn't get the tube very often and realise how things work.

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HazleNutt · 30/05/2014 09:59

why on earth does he think that women should be giving up their seats before he did?

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AnyoneforTurps · 30/05/2014 10:00

Agree with Mellow - I'll give up my seat if someone looks in need but I wouldn't automatically do so for a parent with a buggy.

The poor woman was probably very embarrassed.

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TheSpottedZebra · 30/05/2014 10:03

Well, he sounds a rude twat.
Who was sat in the priority seats at the end of the run, and so near the pushchair?

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MajesticWhine · 30/05/2014 10:16

Yes, I think if you're sat in those priority seats you are duty bound to be more aware of others needing a seat. Perhaps this guy was in the priority seats as he got up from the other side where I couldn't see. He was obviously very upset at having to give up his seat and wanted to blame everyone else.

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TheSpottedZebra · 30/05/2014 10:19

It sounds more like he wasn't in the priority seat and thought that those who were should have got up, and didn't - hence the rant.

But I obvs have no idea and he could just be rude, or lazy, or feel that it is a woman's job, etc etc!

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greenfolder · 30/05/2014 10:22

what an idiot. he thought he ought to offer a seat. he did. there was no need for anyone else to offer as problem solved.

he was a sanctimonious arse. no doubt if an elderly/disabled/heavily pregnant person needed a seat, you would have offered.

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Andrewofgg · 30/05/2014 10:25

Sanctimonious twat.

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PolkaDotsandPumpkin · 30/05/2014 10:28

Maybe he felt that as a man he shouldn't have to give up his seat when there are plenty of women about that should understand and leap to their feet immediately? Hmm

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Igggi · 30/05/2014 10:41

He may have had a disability or other reason why it was quite hard for him to stand - that would explain him doing it, but being annoyed that he was the only one, iyswim. We shall never know.

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MidniteScribbler · 30/05/2014 12:03

To be honest, if baby was upset and mother picked the child up, I'd probably assume she was going to bob him around a bit and would be standing up, at least that's what I always did with DS when he was little. If she looked like she was intending to pull out the boob or bottle I'd expect to offer a seat (or someone to), but just a child having a bit of a sook, don't most people tend to stand up and bob them around a bit?

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fifi669 · 30/05/2014 12:15

When the woman took the baby out I would have offered my seat. She'll have one less arm to hold on with, be less balanced etc in a moving carriage.

Is there a reason he felt the need to rant? Like there were several rows of people between the woman and him and no one closer moved?

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