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Grumpyrealist77 Wed 14-May-14 05:58:17

I live in a council flat attempting to raise DS1 and DS2 as healthily as possible.
We like to have the little windows slightly ajar all year round so we can get some fresh air flowing. The couple upstairs, who are fortunate enough to have bought their flat, have two very young children, so the dad sits in the stairwell puffing away. (Thoughtful, at least he cares about his own).
There are signs up saying no smoking in the communal stairway which he ignores. His second hand smoke somehow gets in through our front door.
The younger couple downstairs who are private renters also have a young toddler.
Daddy is not allowed to smoke at all, but does so at work and when his partner is out. (I used to work at the same place as him,always saw him taking fag breaks)
When smoking indoors he does it standing on a chair out of a small window so so he can spot his partner coming home. Personally i don't buy this as an effective way of not being caught. She must smell it?! Anyway, his smoke drifts right up and is funnelled in by our windows.
I hate it.
I don't mind people's rights to do this and that, but at least think of those it innocently affects!
Cigarette smokers are a bit thick in this day and age, including members of my extended family, to still be spunking their money and health away on something that 'feels nice'...
Sorry, had to get this off my chest!

PlentyOfPubeGardens Wed 14-May-14 20:43:24

Grumpy, you only know how hard your addictions were for you to beat.

But yes, report to the council, what he is doing is illegal.

gamerchick Wed 14-May-14 12:53:18

I was useless at dealing with it, I just used to glare and stare harder out of our spy hole!

Is that the same as when somebody pushes in front of you and you glare furiously at the back of their head? grin

Latara Wed 14-May-14 12:22:25

Reminds me of when I lived in shared accommodation - one of my neighbours smoked 40 a day and I not only had to smell his smoke but also heard his hacking cough every morning.

Worse though was one of my neighbours who smoked skunk heavily every evening - the corridor stank when I went to use the bathroom and made all my clothes smell of it.

Owllady Wed 14-May-14 12:11:26

Are there no smoke detectors in the stair well? Surely it's against fire regs not to have them there?

NomDePrune Wed 14-May-14 12:05:19

Maybe not thick, but they are certainly blind and deaf smile
Anything to do with passive smoking or smelling of smoke is 'impossible' as is the idea that smoke can infiltrate buildings and permeate clothes and linger for days. DP I'm looking at you and yes, that is why we don't live together.
OP, at least your neighbours are aware they shouldn't smoke inside where there are children. Have you tried smoke draught excluders for the front door?

Feminine Wed 14-May-14 11:51:34

I was useless at dealing with it, I just used to glare and stare harder out of our spy hole! confused

Go on...complain properly for both of us

Feminine Wed 14-May-14 11:49:58


You must be frustrated, but smokers are not "thick" you know wink

Anyway, I'd complain to the council. I don't think it matters that they own their flat have a right to enjoy cleaner air.

We lived in a flat with this same problem. It was ironic as the Dad in question was smoking outside his home because he didn't want his children breathing the smoky air.

Ours on the other hand...

BabyLabyrinth Wed 14-May-14 11:24:12

Our neighbours in the flat underneath us smoke. It comes into our flat when we both have the windows open, and it drives me mad. They also smoke in the stairwell when arriving or leaving the house, and it comes in under our front door. We have two DC (2yo and 3mo) and I hate having to shut windows/balcony door because of it, especially now the weather is warmer.

We are trying to move, but it's not all that easy finding a house we like that we can afford.

I used to smoke, and I never knew just how bad it stank. I honestly thought the smell faded as soon as I had put the cigarette out.


Owllady Wed 14-May-14 11:23:14

Could you build them a little smoking shelter out of two bits of 2 by 2 and a windbreak?

If this doesn't work, tar and feather them it's the only way

SaucyJack Wed 14-May-14 11:13:23

You're obviously being too non-confrontational with the bloke upstairs then.

pianodoodle Wed 14-May-14 11:03:14

So sorry for not proof reading my predictive text, your a little unreasonable you'reself...

Your phone sounds very controlling.

JCDenton Wed 14-May-14 10:04:10

Also maybe they just like to smoke. For all my problems with next door's smoke, if someone wants to smoke, do it, just be considerate, much like anything else in the world.

TantrumsAndBalloons Wed 14-May-14 10:00:37

If you have beaten addiction yourself then you must have an idea of just how hard it is?

It's all well and good coming out the other side of an addiction and saying, bloody hell that was a stupid thing to start. But people who are addicted right now probably do not need to be called thick and have someone say "well I did it. So now you must do it"

I was a smoker for 16 years. Started when I was young, with my friends. I am in the process of giving up, with the help of an e cig (1 week in) and it is HARD

I don't expect everyone to rush out and do the same.

specialsubject Wed 14-May-14 09:58:34

addiction or not, the rules apply to him too about smoking inside the building. If he won't listen, report it.

many smokers think there is a magic curtain which means if you stand by a window or door, no-one can smell it and it doesn't stink the house out. And also that no-one minds the reek.

that is the 'thick' bit as far as I'm concerned - I'm sure they all know the risks and that there is addiction help available.

Fideline987654321 Wed 14-May-14 09:58:04


Gosh, this thread took a sharp turn. What did I miss? grin

andsmile Wed 14-May-14 09:51:11


OddBoots Wed 14-May-14 09:46:58

My neighbours smoke in their garden and it comes in my living room window but I've found that if I get an electric fan and point it out of the window and leave it on a low setting the room still cools but there is much less smoke. I'm sure my neighbours think I'm mad but it does help a lot.

orangepudding Wed 14-May-14 09:42:54

I used to have a similar problem. I lived in a terrace and my next door neighbours on one side were heavy smokers. It came into the box room in my house and I could not have the back doors or any windows at the back of the house open as the smell of smoke would come into my house. There was nothing I could do, I was so happy when they moved!

You could try calling the council and say someone is smoking in the stairwell but I'm not sure they would do anything about it.

Grumpyrealist77 Wed 14-May-14 09:34:28

*He'd (sorry)

Grumpyrealist77 Wed 14-May-14 09:32:42

Id love to move, I've tried.
So sorry for not proof reading my predictive text, your a little unreasonable you'reself... wink
Mutual colleagues at my old place of work told me about the chair. He's tell anyone who's listen how brill he was at keeping it a secret from his then pregnant girlfriend which i think is harsh on her!
He's terribly short and said tiny window is 6 foot off the floor so i have no reason to disbelieve his version of events.
I've been VERY tempted to innocently mention it to his girlfriend, but i don't want to be the instigator of an argument between them.
Addictions, I've had them, once I'd beaten them I've looked back and thought "How silly of me!"
Its a vast expense over a lifetime and put health at risk.

JCDenton Wed 14-May-14 08:26:14

Agree with the OP other than the 'thick' bit.

I live next to chain smokers and it comes through the floor in our bedroom. I think we've managed to mitigate the problem with some expanding foam but it used to utterly stink of stale smoke and it's still not at all nice.

I love that people say 'move'. If I decided to blast heavy metal at all hours, people wouldn't expect you to soundproof your house or deal with it. We have slept on the sofas when they have a heavy night, the smoke was so irritating to our throats.

Yes, we have seriously looked at other houses due to the smell at ours.

WorraLiberty Wed 14-May-14 08:23:28

If your a smoker, do you know why you do it? I've never heard a valid answer. Anyone...?

Christ, and yet you call smokers thick?

DuckyMoDuckyMoMo Wed 14-May-14 08:22:57

The man opposite me smokes In his home despite the whole block being non smoking!! He's had cleaners quit because it smelt so bad (he doesn't open windows and chain smokes) when he opens his door the stale smoke lingers in the communal hallway for hours and makes you wretch I've just phoned out HA about him who have said they'll remind him to smoke outside.

It's disgusting hmm

gamerchick Wed 14-May-14 08:20:36


eurochick Wed 14-May-14 08:20:27

Ok you've tried talking to the stair smoker so next step - speak to whoever is responsible for the upkeep of the common areas. As for the downstairs guy, why not speak to his partner and ask her terribly nicely if he could find somewhere else to smoke as it comes straight into your windows when he leans out... getting her to tell him off as he is obviously scared of that to be sneaking around like he is

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