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To wonder why women are not allowed into combat?

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Weathergames · 08/05/2014 19:52

The main reason being they don't have the "upper body strength" but Olympians have disproved this.

If you want to join the forces male or female
surely you should be able to perform all roles required (however grim/unethical etc).

Former head of the Army, Lord Dannatt, said keeping women out of combat roles was a "point of principle".

"To be in a unit that is given orders to attack a hill, to attack a town, to attack a village, that is a role not for women," he said.

Am not sure about this - OH is a submariner and they have allowed women on board (they must be NUTS to want to go).

Surely it's pretty sexist?

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meditrina · 08/05/2014 21:21

Women do go into combat roles.

They are not infanteers, tankies or marines. But you find them on the front line in many, many roles. Including ones which fight.

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PenelopeKeeling · 08/05/2014 21:23

I once asked a soldier this and he said that it was because if a woman soldier got into trouble, the men would want to help her rather than carry on fighting. He said it like that was the way they all saw it, but maybe it was just him...

There is also a view that woman are just not naturally violent or aggressive, but obviously they can be - many women have murdered.

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MojitoMadness · 08/05/2014 21:23

I agree with you OP. I was a bit ConfusedHmm when I heard in the news today that they're considering putting women into combat now. I thought women had been on the front lines in combat for years!

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NigellasDealer · 08/05/2014 21:24

I have heard it is
a) because men will be more gallant to them than to fellow men soldiers which might be risky
b) they might be pregnant

anyway I beleive that women do now go into more front line roles than previously

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ExitPursuedByABear · 08/05/2014 21:24

Well I don't want to stab anyone with a bayonet.

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CorusKate · 08/05/2014 21:25

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SirChenjin · 08/05/2014 21:25

I thought they were allowed into combat now Confused

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StrawberryGashes · 08/05/2014 21:26

penelope I've also heard that same point too, that they would put themselves at risk to help a woman or to protect her.

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Joylin · 08/05/2014 21:27

Olympians have proved it, they have women's only competitions for a reason!!! Compare the strongest men with the strongest women for the same weights, compare the fastest men with the fastest women. The truth is that of the top physically able females, there'll always be plenty of men capable of effortlessly beating them.

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subtleplansarehereagain · 08/05/2014 21:28

But a lot of combat isn't physical now, is it? The US are remotely flying drones from miles away.

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CorusKate · 08/05/2014 21:29

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specialsubject · 08/05/2014 21:30

I'm not spatially inept, and I'm female...

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stubbornstains · 08/05/2014 21:32

But on the plus side....you live longer than a man, statistically speaking. I reckon we get the better end of the deal. Smile

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DefiniteMaybe · 08/05/2014 21:33

I don't know anything about this subject but surely on the front line a woman will be more vulnerable than a man. If she was captured for example she'd probably be more likely to be raped than a male soldier.
Fighting tends to be more common in places where women have much less rights than men so in a situation like that the female soldier would be seen as an insult to the other side and again be more vulnerable.

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NigellasDealer · 08/05/2014 21:33

I am not 'spatially inept' thank you kate!
mind you an awful lot of women are it is true....

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NigellasDealer · 08/05/2014 21:34

also you could not have had trench warfare with women having their periods could you?

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meditrina · 08/05/2014 21:35

"The US are remotely flying drones from miles away."

And that is an example of the sort of combat role already open to women.

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StrawberryGashes · 08/05/2014 21:36

I'm definitely spatially inept, although this could be more to do with my hypermobility than my gender.

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CorusKate · 08/05/2014 21:36

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Weathergames · 08/05/2014 21:36

Women on submarines having periods is not a pleasant thought either - esp now they aren't allowed to dump their rubbish in the sea any more Confused

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Mitchy1nge · 08/05/2014 21:38

there are plenty of men who don't meet the physical and psychological requirements for attack roles too - even if on average more men than women will satisfy the fitness standards that's not a good enough reason to bar all women from those jobs is it?

having said that my niece is on the front line at the moment in Afghanistan but the fact that it's not a close combat role isn't a massive comfort to my brother!

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CorusKate · 08/05/2014 21:40

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ManWithNoName · 08/05/2014 21:41

Women do go into extremely dangerous undercover surveillance roles and could end up in combat very easily.

I believe the Israeli army has many women in combat roles.

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Weathergames · 08/05/2014 21:42

Sorry meant the British forces.

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Birdsgottafly · 08/05/2014 21:42

Corus, if you really want to be able to beat most people to death with your hands, then you can be as good as the average man, with training.

Other than for that reason, females aren't compromised.

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