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Was I unreasonable to tell this lady to get lost in fairly strong language?

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Defnotsupergirl Wed 02-Apr-14 03:48:04

I am very obviously pregnant at the moment. At my local supermarket today I was stopped going in by an older lady who asked me the usual questions regarding when I was due, looking forward to being a mum etc. all fair enough..... Then she asked me if I was looking forward to the pain of childbirth to atone for my sins. I was dumbfounded and said without really thinking that no, I am having a planned cesarean due to medical reasons. She then became angry telling me that it was my duty as a woman to give birth in pain as was decreed by God because of the sin committed by Eve etc.

I told her to F off etc. then waddled into the shop while she was still having a go at me in a loud voice - I'm fairly sure it wasn't but was my reaction unreasonable?

ballstoit Wed 02-Apr-14 03:58:31

Totally reasonable, in fact quite reserved imo.

Hope all goes well with the birth, enjoy your lovely newborn smile

Poshsausage Wed 02-Apr-14 04:00:18

Fuck off was invented for these situations imo

DaleyBum Wed 02-Apr-14 04:00:25

YA so NBU. Hope everything goes well flowers

spatchcock Wed 02-Apr-14 04:05:43

Wow. Surely there are better ways to atone for our sins? A few hail marys or taking an infirm person some biscuits?

Innogen Wed 02-Apr-14 04:35:40

She was batshit crazy. Well done OP!

aurynne Wed 02-Apr-14 05:07:02

"Then she asked me if I was looking forward to the pain of childbirth to atone for my sins".

I can't think of any other scenario than bursting into uncontrollable guffaws after hearing something like this myself.

TheHamster Wed 02-Apr-14 05:09:05

That almost made me laugh at how absurd it was. Atone? For your sins? By childbirth? I don't know how the hell I would react, but I think your answer was pretty much perfect.

LastOneDancing Wed 02-Apr-14 05:10:08

grin 'no, I'm having a caesarian'

I bet that pissed on her fire and brimstone seasoned chips.

Weegiemum Wed 02-Apr-14 05:15:42

There's one tiny verse in the bible (1Timothy 2:15) that says
"But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety"

Mainstream Christian denominations tend to ignore it - or focus on the faith, love and holiness bit. More fundamentalist types tend to focus on the pain part.

I'm a Christian but I'd probably have told her to fuck off too!

Lweji Wed 02-Apr-14 05:28:39

She must be joking. The pain after a C section (i'm told) will also atone for your sins. grin

Your response sounds measured and appropriate.

It's shorter than to explain to her that the reason why women give birth in pain is because our brains are too large and babies are born with a skull size on the limit of what our bodies allow.
So, yes, we do give birth in pain because our brains are big enough for complex thoughts that include ethics, morals, etc
In a way women are punished for the higher intelligence of the entire species. sad Marsupials rock.

You could also have asked her if she also believed in Noah's ark. I bet she did.

LibraryMum8 Wed 02-Apr-14 05:50:15


Homebird8 Wed 02-Apr-14 06:05:48

I have to bear my DCs everyday. Does that count Weegiemum ? grin

OP, perhaps if you bump (did I really say that?) into the lady again you might like to suggest that she hurry home to pray that your child be a boy so that he may never sin.

Hope the CS goes well and that you enjoy the pure new life that you are so wonderfully bringing into this world.

Rosa Wed 02-Apr-14 06:24:39

Well done and a very appropriate reply......

TwittyMcTwitterson Wed 02-Apr-14 06:26:01

Noooooo! No way did she say that??? shock She must be bat shit crazy. What do men do to atone their sins? Or is she a bit sexist too?!

C section after pains aren't too bad. Don't worry. There's some very naice liquid morphine if they are grin

DrankSangriaInThePark Wed 02-Apr-14 06:27:14

What did her being elderly have to do with it?

My gynaecologist said the same to me, actually. "Our mother Mary never had a caesarean"

I didn't tell him to fuck off though.

DrankSangriaInThePark Wed 02-Apr-14 06:28:24

Actually.....if she really did say that after asking you "normal" questions, then yes, she probably did have MH problems.

Or "bat shit crazy" as MN likes to call it. In its oh-so-caring way.

aurynne Wed 02-Apr-14 06:33:09

"My gynaecologist said the same to me, actually. "Our mother Mary never had a caesarean""

He forgot to mention She did not have any sins to atone for, and still She gave birth in pain. She did not even get to enjoy the fun bits of conceiving either! You really can't win being a woman...

DrankSangriaInThePark Wed 02-Apr-14 06:37:50

And she was probably about 11, don't forget that bit!

PedantMarina Wed 02-Apr-14 06:45:16

Half-genuine question here: if OP had cracked her across the jaw, could she have successfully avoided jail by pleading 'hormones'?

Look on the bright side, OP. On mumsnet we're constantly having to put up with trolls and goadies and we never know what they look like. You've got a face to remember! Well jell envy

And congratulations, and best of luck.

kungfupannda Wed 02-Apr-14 06:50:46

So if you atone for your sins in childbirth, then you are presumably all sin-free afterwards? So, what sins are you being punished for by everything that comes afterwards?

And how do the men do the atoning thing?

Delphiniumsblue Wed 02-Apr-14 06:54:14

She was just a nutter, not someone to pay attention to.

ItsSpringBaby Wed 02-Apr-14 06:55:02

I wouldn't have sworn at her, just nodded and walked away. Living in East London I'm hounded by oddballs on a regular basis.

aurynne Wed 02-Apr-14 06:56:25

Men atone by having to sweat to get bread, according to the Bible. Very much like labour pains, innit?

Pagwatch Wed 02-Apr-14 07:00:57

To be honest I don't really know why, in that situation, anyone would manage to get riled enough to have to say 'fuck off'.
She clearly has odd ideas. Why is 'erm - ok. Bye then' not sufficient.
At best she has strange ways, at worst mental health issues so why not just wander off?
Seems a tad ott to me.

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