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babyjane67 Tue 01-Apr-14 15:46:08

im a school lunchbreak supervisor at my dds primary
shes5&a half so in reception
in early hrs of mon morn she woke with tummy ache&was sick
shes also had an awful barking productive cough for last wk or so
anyway shes been off school yest&today due to the sickness which has also turned to diarrhoea a few times since yest
I rang in yest saying she wouldnt be in&neither would I&cuz of the48hr 'law'the school has that the kids arent allowed back in til after last incidence of it didnt ribg in today as assumed theyd expect me to ring again tomorrow which I will
anyway school rang me this pm&asked when I'll be back in&i said well dds still not well
so she said well cant you arrange for someone to look after her?
I said no ive only got my ellderly mum whos got copd&has her good days& I wouldnt want her to catch it
she said well isnt there anyone else?
no I said there isnt
so she said well can u ring in morn pls&let us know if youll be in
so I explained I will but didnt yoday cuza48hr thing to which she said yes for the children! shock
so it left me thinking wtf??
do they really want me to spread the germs around even if I did have someone to leave her with which I dont!
thought work place are sposed to be more flexible about this now?
especially as its a school!

Sirzy Tue 01-Apr-14 15:50:08

So you didn't make it clear how long you will be off and then got upset when they asked when you would be back?

There is only so much flexibility schools can provide, they are still going to be left short staffed so it's only fair they want to at least be kept informed.

blahblahblah2014 Tue 01-Apr-14 15:50:30

well i wouldn't have a day off work if my child was ill the day before.....You'll just have to sort out childcare for these emergencies like everyone else manages too.....harsh but reality

MagnaCharge Tue 01-Apr-14 15:51:17

I am afraid you can't just repeatedly have time off for your child's illness and yes you need to contact work every morning of your absence.

Your child care problems ate not your employers responsibility.

FWIW when I worked in schools you were allowed one day if your child was ill then expected to make arrangements. That went for anyone fron the cleaner to the head.

meditrina Tue 01-Apr-14 15:52:32

If you are I'll, you take sick leave.

If you have a sick child, you can take emergency leave whist you sort out alternative care, but if you haven't succumbed yourself, you are expected to be at work.

You'll need to work something out (for this, and any future illnesses). It's a PITA, but something all working parents face.

Jinty64 Tue 01-Apr-14 15:53:06

I work with patients with cancer and suppressed immunity. I would still be expected to go to work. We are allowed emergency time off for a sick child but would then be expected to make arrangements. Otherwise they would have no workforce and people taking the piss. Do you have a partner?

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit Tue 01-Apr-14 15:57:10

Most jobs allow a certain amount of time for you to organise alternative child care for your sick child. There are two issues; your child being off school and you needing to take time off your job. It is reasonable for them to expect you to either use holiday/take unpaid leave/find alternative childcare. It's a job.

DoJo Tue 01-Apr-14 16:02:02

YABU I'm afraid - it's not unreasonable of them to assume that you will either call in to let them know that you will not be at work, or to expect you to try and make other arrangements for your daughter. It might seem obvious to you that you will not be there, but it wasn't to them and you should be giving as much information as you can when you need to deviate from your normal arrangements.

thebody Tue 01-Apr-14 16:02:17

it's only a rule for the person affected.

if one of my dcs had D/V I wouldn't keep the others off just in case and both me and dh would go to work as normal.

you are talking about a paid job not a voluntary stint in a charity shop.

look out they don't sac you op.

NurseyWursey Tue 01-Apr-14 16:02:31

I don't think they've been unreasonable, they're just needing to know when you'll be in, and asking if there's any arrangments you can make.

TheKnightsThatSayNee Tue 01-Apr-14 16:09:00

I agree with all the posts above but I live in a city where I have no family. My partner and I take turns to take time off if our child is ill but there is literally no one else. I know that�s not my employers problem but what do you suggest the OP or myself should d? Everyone says sort it out but if the child-minder/nursery/school won�t take them what can you do?

Flufflewuffle Tue 01-Apr-14 16:20:23

I've had this issue...also living in a new city and not knowing a soul. I had to leave my ill kids with emergency childcare. Cost me a small fortune but it had to be done. sad
Try them here:

Everyone is CRB checked and I've never had an issue with them. They also have nannies that can come to the house if needed.

Mushypeasandchipstogo Tue 01-Apr-14 16:20:38

Please OP could you not write in total text speak! I'm afraid that I didn't understand any of your post. confused Must be my age.

ENormaSnob Tue 01-Apr-14 16:23:06


And your attitude towards your employers is shit.

babyjane67 Tue 01-Apr-14 16:23:19

thankyou theknights!
there is literally no one else
thia is the firat time dds been off through illness
yes I have a dp but he works7til5
my job is an hr&a quarter a day
we dont get holidays til the kids break up
we have to fill in a form like the parents do if they wanna
take them out in term time
I have done this type of job in the past&never had this problem!

FloralPuddles Tue 01-Apr-14 16:28:43

I'm guessing the 'form' you have to fill out is a holiday form? Most employees no matter where they with have to fill out these., though as you get all school holidays off etc I'm not sure how often you would need to fill out such a 'form' in between times ;)

They are not giving you a 'problem' they just want to know when a member of their staff will be into work as they (you) are not ill! It doesn't matter if it's an hour or 7 hours, people rely on you to be in work, you are not ill.

Your type of job is a prized and sought after job these days, be nice to your employers ;)

FloralPuddles Tue 01-Apr-14 16:29:26

Sorry for typos - I meant 'no matter where they work' not with.

Sirzy Tue 01-Apr-14 16:32:25

If you were that disposable then there wouldn't be a job. Politeness says you don't just not go in to work without at least letting them know. And if your not sick you have to expect to take it as unpaid.

babyjane67 Tue 01-Apr-14 16:38:52

flora its not a prized or sought after job these days
used to be in the past but not anymore!
I was only one who applied&it had been advertised for ages!
oviously I understand they need the staff in&i wouldnt let them down on purpose or if I had anyone to leave dd with!
we cant afford to pay for childcare
thats why I went for a school job so that id be off same time as dd
im46have2grown up kids&did this job before for10yrs

babyjane67 Tue 01-Apr-14 16:40:40

sirzy I did let them know
I rang in yest on first day of her sickness

Onesleeptillwembley Tue 01-Apr-14 16:45:25

Are you for real? You're supposed to use the first day off to arrange care then GO TO WORK. People can't just take all the time off when their kids are sick. Have you ever had another job? And the 48 hour rule - that's for people that are actually ill. I'm astounded an adult thinks not only this is acceptable, but is miffed at being chased up when not turning up for work without calling and with no good reason. And yes, it's hard, you need to arrange with another mum maybe to cover each other when needed. That's what we did when moving to new places with no family and DH working away.

Dsheetsbucks9 Tue 01-Apr-14 16:46:59

U will jst hav w gt used 2 it Im afraid. Such is working life.

Hoppinggreen Tue 01-Apr-14 16:53:23

The fact that you work in a school is totally irrelevant.
You do not have a right to take time off if your child is ill. You do have a right to have some time to find emergency childcare if necessary but you have no more right than anyone working in a shop or office to time off when your child is ill.
It would be nice to think employers can be flexible but you should tell them if you aren't going in, you can assume they know.

exbrummie Tue 01-Apr-14 16:54:11

This is the reason I didn't work when my DC were young.
I was lucky enough not to need to financially but once my kids were at school people were saying"oh you can get a job now"
I would answer "what happens if they are ill,I have no family here and I'm sure my friends would love to look after my puking kids"
"Oh yeah,I never thought of that" they would reply.

UncleT Tue 01-Apr-14 16:57:50

It's ridiculous to expect to be off throughout the entire illness. It's also totally unreasonable to be 'pissed off' at the fact that your employers need to know when you'll be back and can't just afford to write any given employee off for days on end whenever a child gets a bug. Emergency leave to get things sorted and go back to work ASAP. I unfortunately have to agree with a previous poster that your attitude towards your employer is noticeably unacceptable.

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