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AIBU?

AIBU to ask if anyone here knows anything about tourist visas?

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LilJinx · 15/03/2014 16:51

OK, so my mum is not British and needs a family visitor visa to come visit me here in the UK.

She has never stayed longer than a couple of months and she doesn't usually visit more than once a year. The last visa actually went unused because she didn't get time to come over.

However, this time (we have met now after 11 months) there are some serious issues that I am facing and I would like her to stay for 3 months to help me through it.

Do you suppose this will cause her problems to get further visas to come visit me? I know the UKBA is strict about people using tourist visas to stay for too long in the UK, and this is what concerns me.

Just to clarify, my mum finances all her visits to the Uk and has never (and will never) access public funds.

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LilJinx · 15/03/2014 17:12

Anyone?

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LilJinx · 15/03/2014 17:14

Also she's self employed and so it's fine for her I be away from work as she can supervise things remotely as well.

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expatinscotland · 15/03/2014 17:15

As long as she can prove she can support herself it should be alright, and has a return ticket.

LilJinx · 15/03/2014 17:17

She will definitely show that (she always provides proof of funds etc.) and I will also show my employment and financial documents to prove that in case she can't then I will support her.

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CoteDAzur · 15/03/2014 17:19

If visa says "maximum 3 month stay in a 12 min period" (as they do, iirc) i think it would be a mistake to overstay that period. It could jeopardise her future visits.

Pigletin · 15/03/2014 17:20

Have you looked a this:

www.gov.uk/family-visit-visa/overview

With this type of visa she can stay for up to 6 months if she passes the eligibility requirements.

Sunnymeg · 15/03/2014 17:21

We have friends who are from Borneo and their parents come over on 6 month visas.

Pigletin · 15/03/2014 17:22

Whatever visa she gets it will be a mistake to overstay the allowed period if she wants to visit again in the future.

LilJinx · 15/03/2014 17:37

No, no it's a six month visa with multiple entries allowed. There is no question of overstaying the visa duration allowed.

She's been here since February, her visa is valid until August and I want her to say until May.

The reason we're concerned is that she's never stayed for this long a period before and we wouldn't want the authorities to think that she's using a tourist visa to live here

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LilJinx · 15/03/2014 17:39

To clarify, she already has a visa for her present visit but it will expire in August (she will leave before then).

We are concerned about the next visa application. Will it count against her to have stayed for three months at a stretch?

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Pigletin · 15/03/2014 17:39

Why would you worry? The authorities have authorised a 6 month stay and that's what she is doing.

Pigletin · 15/03/2014 17:41

It wouldn't count against her if she doesn't overstay the period she has been allowed to stay.

LilJinx · 15/03/2014 17:43

There's a threatening note on the UKBA website which sates that while anyone is allowed to stay up to six months in any 12 month period, they will make strict checks to ensure that nobody stays for extended periods at a go and they might suspect people of using tourist visas to live in the UK and this might harm her chances of having the next application approved.

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Tryharder · 15/03/2014 17:50

Your mother is allowed to stay for any period upto 6 months at a time. She may not work or gain access to public funds. She can access NHS emergency treatment but not ongoing hospital care. She can assist you with childcare and it not be considered work.

Hope this helps x

EurotrashGirl · 15/03/2014 18:00

As long as she leaves before her visa expires and abides by the conditions of the visa its fine. If you are really concerned about it, make sure that her return ticket is booked for before her visa expires.

dylanthedragon · 15/03/2014 18:02

I think when UKBA talk about people living here on those visas, they mean people who stay for the full six months then immediately apply for another 6 months when they get home. I really don't think you have anything to worry about.

mikulkin · 15/03/2014 18:51

My mother comes every 2 months and stays for 2 months, never had problems with renewing visa. The rule stays up to 180 days on each visit. As long as she doesn't overstay that and doesn't ask for any public funds etc, she should be fine.

expatinscotland · 15/03/2014 19:28

Yeah, dylan is right. My dad has to use the tourist visa when he visits (my mother is an EU national by descent) and when DD1 was sick he came over about 4 times in 8 months and it only raised an eyebrow once, that was because they had left just weeks before and had to come back as she was critically ill in ICU (she passed away) and then the second they found that out they couldn't get them through fast enough. They were an absolute wreck and had come off a cruise in the Caribbean to fly over.

My dad has always had a return ticket, British money on him (usually about £500-£1000), his credit cards, his debit card, etc. But there's ample proof he has no intention of living here - he owns his own home, draws a pension in his home country.

They are pretty good at spotting chancers.

MrsSparkles · 15/03/2014 19:44

As far as I've heard a good rule of thumb is as much time out as in. So if you've been here 3 months, then stay out of the country for 3 months.

As long as she can show ties to home (job, property, family), and always stays within her conditions I shouldn't think it will be a problem.

LilJinx · 15/03/2014 20:28

Thanks everyone, that's really reassuring. My mum is self employed in her home country and owns property there. She also has parents to take care of as well as friends and family. She's been visiting me in the UK for over 4 years now and has never breached any conditions of her stay.

Expatinscotland- I'm so sorry to hear about your daughter. I can't imagine the grief and it's awful you had to go through that.

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MrsPear · 15/03/2014 20:38

We are having a tough time getting one for the in laws - my father offered his house as a bond but we were still turned down apparently they are coming here to work and have no family at home. They are in their 60s and their are 100s times more relatives at home plus their own home which 100% theirs. It is madness - OP you need to get all finances in order and have clear return date and above all luck.

Potol · 15/03/2014 20:43

My parents came separately after DS was born and stayed 3 months. A six month multiple entry visa is precisely that. As long as you abide by the rules I don't see why UKBA would care whether she stayed 1 month or 3.

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LilJinx · 15/03/2014 20:51

MrsPear-

I have been advised that they look for liquid funds (cash in savings account etc.) to determine if someone can support themselves. I have heard of other cases where offering bonds or property instead has led to people being turned down.

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nickymanchester · 15/03/2014 21:06

Liljinx

My MIL isn't British and she has come over to stay on a family visa many times over the last few years.

You are correct that they are looking for liquid funds, but this can come from the sponsor ie you or your DH.

In our case they rejected her first application and we had to appeal it. Her application was refused on two grounds, firstly that she didn't have close enough ties to her home and secondly that there were insufficient funds to support her.

In the first case, we just provided documents to show that she was still married to her husband and living with him.

In the case of sufficient funds, it seems to be because we transfer any excess money to our savings account and so it seems that we don't have any money spare in our current account at the end of the month. As a result, the visa was refused.

When we appealed we sent details of our savings account as well to show that we had enough money and they were happy with it. Within three days of the British embassy in Moscow receiving the appeal my MIL had a call asking her to come to Moscow to get the visa.

Despite the first ever application being rejected she has never had any problems with any subsequent applications

LilJinx · 15/03/2014 21:16

So far she's never had trouble getting the visa because we always show return ticket, property papers and liquid funds in bank account. She's self employed so there is no way to provide an employer's letter but she does give details of her employment.

I don't usually need to say that I am supporting her, but if need be I can show my funds and employment papers.

We were simply concerned because she has never stayed for three months at a stretch before. The maximum she has stayed with me previously is 2 months.

But since everyone is saying that it's OK to stay three months as long as she doesn't overstay then I won't worry.

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