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superstarheartbreaker Fri 07-Mar-14 21:53:19

Death tthreats at work that is. li am a teacher. Ok..I do find a crowd of teens hard to control. Does this mesn I deserve abuse? I am great st my subject. High hraded. Shit at politics. So long bored of being told im shit

superstarheartbreaker Sat 08-Mar-14 07:38:58

Wandering...that's why I'm looking for a new job. I'd rather stack shelves. The whole thing has made me feel like shit.

Pippintea Sat 08-Mar-14 06:45:15

OP YANBU. I have seen this happen. Some schools don't deal with the entitled ones, the chair throwers, the loud agressive dominant bullies. In some schools teachers are expected to contain these students without support.
I would love the parents to see how their DC behave in school. Some would be shocked but my guess is that many would laugh along because their DC are a product of them.

lastnightIwenttoManderley Sat 08-Mar-14 06:20:13

OP - did you do a PGCE or go straight in to teaching?

It's a bloody hard gig - dh teaches and I do the occasional lesson alongside my main job. Dh O's leaving his current school as the head is completely ineffectual and, recognising that the patents are his income stream, panders to them. Result is that the staff ate totally unsupported by the SMT who have even been known to override disciplinary procedures as parents think little Johnny can do no wrong...

Boys are generally good, but the lack f consistency has just become too much for dh.

Do you's a specific school issue or that traching may not be the right route for you?

WanderingAway Sat 08-Mar-14 06:16:23

I really think that it is a bad idea to post when drunk.

The whole situation sounds shit but i just wanted to say that if you leave a job you cant get unemployment benefits from anything from 13 weeks to 3 years.

Eebahgum Sat 08-Mar-14 05:56:19

You're not alone in considering a career change. Many teachers in state sector are looking to leave too. Well done for being brave enough to hand your notice in. We deserve to be in jobs that make us happy, or at the very least don't make us miserable.

superstarheartbreaker Sat 08-Mar-14 05:36:30

Thing is when doing supply the head wanted to hire me as I had a very challenging class eat out of my hands. But I chose the other place.

Thumbwitch Sat 08-Mar-14 04:36:12

Ah no, you really should report it to the police - why on earth would you let the little gits get away with it?! It might not "go down well" but you're giving them completely the wrong message by bowing down to it and bowing out. You are completely within your rights to leave, I don't have a problem with that - but since you ARE leaving, why not report them? They won't be able to get to you since you won't be working there any more, and any cyber-stalking/bullying that might occurs would be another criminal offence so they'd be stupid to attempt it.

These young soon-to-be-adults really need to learn about consequences of their unthinking stupid actions/deeds/words - let it be your last lesson to them, please.

superstarheartbreaker Sat 08-Mar-14 04:25:44

I won't report to police... Never goes down well.

superstarheartbreaker Sat 08-Mar-14 04:24:41

In past schools I have been bullied by staff rather than students. Many of my classes said how much they liked me and were sad to see me leave.

superstarheartbreaker Sat 08-Mar-14 04:23:31

No I didn't report to police but did report to slt. Shitty response.

MrsTerryPratchett Sat 08-Mar-14 04:16:26

If you have been bullied at all 4 schools you have been at, you need to look at a different age range or type of teaching. I frequently teach youth financial literacy and manage to do it with very challenging youth. I won't give the classes to the other facilitators because, frankly, they would be eaten alive. Helps that I was a shit, bored, cheeky, arrogant, intelligent teen. I know what to look for.

Find something to do that you are good at. Not just facets of it.

Thumbwitch Sat 08-Mar-14 03:51:29

Ah sorry, just remembered as I pressed post that you HAVE reported it to the police and got an utterly shitly dismissive response. Write to the police complaints dept about the shit response as well.

Thumbwitch Sat 08-Mar-14 03:50:19

Hiddenhome - some parents actually encourage their children in their shitty behaviour, telling them that they are more important than some teacher (who, in their eyes, wouldn't be in teaching if they were actually any good at anything).

It can be a soul-destroying situation to deal with and I, for one, wouldn't undertake it for 3x the money they pay. More! I taught at University level, vocational students who wanted to be there, and that was great - any sort of attempting to teach students who don't want to be there, or who feel they are somehow superior, is something I wouldn't and couldn't do.

Superstar - they have lost a valuable teacher, by the sound of it - and if you are high enough up in your field, move to tertiary education if you can. Even 6th form college is better than secondary school.
I do hope you reported the death threats to the police though - you really should have, and still should in fact - might bring it home to the little darlings that they can't just say what they like to whomever, however much money Daddy and Mummy have.

superstarheartbreaker Sat 08-Mar-14 03:40:30

I have bullied now in all 4 schools I have worked at so not going back.

ChampagneTastes Fri 07-Mar-14 23:11:19

Sounds like a horribly unsupportive environment. Have you considered a state school? What subject do you teach? Are you relatively new to the profession? May be able to offer advice if you want it. Feel free to PM me.

Maryz Fri 07-Mar-14 23:09:16

If your lessons are boring, change them.

If the school won't let you change them, then you need to move school.

Handing in your notice is probably a good idea, try another school before you give up teaching though. And wherever you try, remember the first few weeks will be awful while they challenge you, but then if you are a good teacher and if you are allowed to teach, it will get better.

indigo18 Fri 07-Mar-14 23:08:48

You have my sympathy; know how it works. Put in detention - makes you look weak for not 'engaging' them in lesson. F**k that. some have no intention of being engaged. Ever. Write them a bad report? Other staff give a good or average report for a quiet life. Makes you look bad again for not getting the best out of them. Meanwhile they snigger, made snide remarks, interrupt, challenge and challenge again. Like to see Gove doing it...

superstarheartbreaker Fri 07-Mar-14 23:05:23

Its a shame as I love my subject A* gcse, 2.1 degree. Love teens etc, etc. What am I doing wronv then? Hate being blamed for bad behaviour when management tie my hands.

Maryz Fri 07-Mar-14 23:04:27

Some parents will support you. We aren't all blinded by our children's wonderfulness, some of us realise our children can sometimes be little shits.

ds spent three hours recently scraping chewing gum off desks as a punishment for lateness.

Some people may think it was harsh, but I thought it was great. He was persistently late, and then "forgot" to turn up for a detention. So got another long, unpleasant one.

To be fair to him, though, he accepted it happily. And was quite cheerful about taking his punishment on the chin.

Your problem may not be the children, it may be the school. So if you are sure you aren't a shite teacher (and if you are, look to retrain), then change schools to one that will support you.

And ffs, when you wake up (and sober up) get the thread deleted smile

hiddenhome Fri 07-Mar-14 23:03:05

Kids in this country should value education, not demand to be 'entertained' sad They should also have respect for others.

YellowTulips Fri 07-Mar-14 22:55:35

Leave and do something else.

You sound as if you are highly qualified. Use those skills and training in another profession.

It's not working out for you. Life's too short to spend on a career that isn't working out.

Teaching isn't just about qualifications. It's about being able to engage the toughest, most unsympathetic audience in the worst on topics dictated by someone else. It's a tough gig and I am in awe of people who can do this.

The teachers on Educating Yorkshire made me cry. The effort, dedication, skill and compassion to their pupils was inspirational. It's a true vocation.

It sounds like you no longer feel that. So do something else and put your skills to use doing something you love. thanks

hiddenhome Fri 07-Mar-14 22:49:00

Well, it's best you're out of that school then. Onwards and upwards.

What are you going to do?

IHeartKingThistle Fri 07-Mar-14 22:48:21

Oh and OP, in case you're an English teacher: be bloody, bold and resolute. You're better than this.

superstarheartbreaker Fri 07-Mar-14 22:48:02

Sorry. Have already given in my notice. Hate it sonmuch.

Tiredtomybones Fri 07-Mar-14 22:47:54

I gave up teaching last year. It had become an absolute nightmare. I found out I was pregnant just after I handed my notice in so haven't even tried to find another job. Teaching is not the job it was when I started in 2000. Good luck with finding something else. No one deserves to be threatened at work, or any other time.

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