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To be really Fucked Off with Edwina Currie

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TheTruffleHunter Thu 06-Mar-14 04:55:22

She's on BBC news 24 right now saying she doesn't agree with Food Banks - having just visited one and met the people collecting what will (hopefully) keep them going for the next week or two!

She thinks that won't encourage them to 'save for a rainy day'

I'm so cross I don't know what to do with myself!!

HopeClearwater Thu 06-Mar-14 17:24:09

MistressDeeCee great post.

What people don't seem to get is that it is mostly your circumstances which dictate how you behave, not your character. Make someone suddenly very poor for an indefinite period of time and it's very likely that they won't make the choices that the affluent middle class commentator like EC will think that they themselves would make. What's been said above about the grinding nature of poverty affects us all when we are poor.

I expect EC thinks she would be able to pull herself up by her bootstraps - yes, we'd all like to think that - but would we? And don't a lot of those rags to riches stories involve an element of luck - being in the right place at the right time? Edwina Currie is a nasty smug piece of work who should be thankful for what she has, and stop preaching to those less fortunate than herself.

sashh Thu 06-Mar-14 17:30:15

It's not unbearable poverty crackfox, don't be so melodramatic. It's relative poverty . If you want unbearable, go to India or Sub Saharan Africa.

Really? What's the difference? If you are hungry and cannot afford to buy food are you any better off in the UK?

Oh hang on a minute, the Indian government is attempting to feed everyone, providing school meals for many children.

And the numbers are dropping.

In Britain the numbers are on the increase

MistressDeeCee Thu 06-Mar-14 17:36:02

it is mostly your circumstances which dictate how you behave, not your character

Exactly HopeClearwater

Unless one's back is against the wall, how can they categorically say how they would act/cope? In a country where being poor is scorned and food banks are now the norm, complacency really isn't a wise course. Its like a backward sliding decline..rights that people fought for years ago are being eroded. Im beginning to feel if there was an initiative to uproot the poor from their homes and stick them into workhouses, it would be supported in many working class quarters in a "why should they live in a decent home? Theyre on benefits and they have a colour tv" kind of way. The government's success in creating divisions is shocking.

A couple of years ago I didnt know ANYONE who'd been to a foodbank. Didnt even realise there were so many here. Now, I know at least 3 people

JakeBullet Thu 06-Mar-14 17:49:54

Hungermonkey yes am sure you are indeed as lovely as my friend grin .

He is a die hard Tory voter...I am a floating voter.
Wine makes for heated debates ....and a lot of laughter. He votes Tory but is also a working class man who knows that life can smack people right between the eyes sometimes, smokers or not. Hence he does what he can for our local food bank or other charities. Edwina Currie could learn a thing or two from him.

Hungermonkey Thu 06-Mar-14 18:29:26

He sounds great fun and shows you can be a nasty old Tory and still have a heart of gold - ( I give to foodbanks too - feel very strongly I shoudl even though I say what I've said but ultimately - if you are lucky enough to hav eplenty you have a moral right to give - I guess that's old fashioned philanthropy?)

Misspixietrix Thu 06-Mar-14 19:01:56

jetsetli I wasn't being sarcastic. I was being factual. Not my fault if you took it that way.

Misspixietrix Thu 06-Mar-14 19:25:17

Thankyou for donating though. If you (or any poster actually) can spare even an hour volunteering please do feel free to ask around and get more info. It's very very eye opening.

SinisterBuggyMonth Thu 06-Mar-14 19:26:04

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Misspixietrix Thu 06-Mar-14 19:38:42

Definitely Sinister!. We had a lady turn up to ours who needed several parcels. It turned out to be a social worker getting them for several families. If I was just passing through I could have easily made judgements about her. Just goes to show we shouldnt eh?

LtEveDallas Thu 06-Mar-14 19:47:51

Hungermonkey, roll-up cigarettes probably cost around £1.00 a day depending on how thinly they are rolled. Tobacco is a well known appetite suppressant. When they were on the bones of their arse my brother used to eat one day on, one day off so that his partner and child could eat. On his day off he used to smoke roll-ups and drink tap water so that he was not hungry.

Varya Thu 06-Mar-14 21:33:18

Loves herself and her unwanted opinions, to bits. Cannot stand the sight or sound of her. No idea of trying to make ends meet, dreading the fuel bill or running a fourteen year old car.

Misspixietrix Thu 06-Mar-14 21:35:03

Lteve I don't think it will matter to this crowd. Incidentally the people I know who are on benefits don'tddrink or smoke. Tell a lie. The one I did know managed to give up last year. Good for her I say.

Quoteunquote Thu 06-Mar-14 22:10:31

I've met her a few times, she is not very bright, the conversations kept going over her head.

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