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To think this girl won't turn 18 tomorrow?

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CrohnicallyFarting Thu 27-Feb-14 19:53:00

I was listening to the radio, and they were wishing a happy birthday to someone who is celebrating their 18th birthday tomorrow (28th Feb).

The thing is, she was born on Feb 29th. Obviously, this year isn't a leap year, so she can't celebrate her actual birth date. But I can't help thinking she's celebrating a day early and she should actually have 1st March as her 'birthday' in non-leap years.

I just have this vision of the poor girl going out for a few drinks tomorrow to celebrate as is customary for people turning 18, only for her to get IDed and turned away for not actually being 18 yet.

So AIBU or is she?

Seff Sat 01-Mar-14 10:38:16

Generally speaking, the police wouldn't be going round pubs and clubs checking the ID of everyone in there, so most barstaff would probably be kind about it.

The reason most barstaff get caught serving under 18s is when the police send in people who are under 18 (and they are supposed to look under 18 too) to try and buy alcohol.

In my years of working behind a bar, I've never known it come up though.

As for when people born on the 29th Feb choose to celebrate, some say their birthday is the day after the 28th Feb, so celebrate on 1st March, others say they were born in February, not March, so celebrate on the last day of February.

mrsjay Sat 01-Mar-14 10:34:48

oh if she got Id she would not get served poor girl wont be able to her a drink in a pub till she is counts fingers 20 odd

Stinklebell Sat 01-Mar-14 10:29:44

It would be 1st March I think

I've got a personal alcohol licence and someone else on the course asked as he had a child with a 29th Feb birthday and we were all told 1st March.

The 28th Feb is not the 29th, whether or not the 29th exists that year

bottleofbeer Sat 01-Mar-14 10:14:46

My son is 18 today.I went into labour on 29th grin

honestpointofview Sat 01-Mar-14 09:34:50

Kisses is right. If you followed the principle found in some areas of law she would be 18 on the 28 of Feb. As an example you need two years of service to claim unfair dismissal. If you started on say the 2 March 2012 you would have two years service today. Tomorrow you would have two years and a day. Pensions law has long debated this for the purpose of when he can retire ie is it the day before your birthday.

AdoraBell Sat 01-Mar-14 02:44:29

She has two choices OP. Celebrate a different date or only have a birthday every fourth year.

I wouldn't wait four years for my birthday.

Adikia Sat 01-Mar-14 02:37:23

I had this conversation with a barman I worked with a few years ago because the pub was quiet and it was one of those weird conversations prompted by it being a leap year and his baby being due at the end of Feb. We tried google and never did find an answer. We decided if it ever came up we would probably go with them turning 18 on the 1st just to be on the safe side, I think that's what most staff would do.

falulahthecat Sat 01-Mar-14 00:24:06

Technically, she'd have to live for around 485 years to lose a whole year of her life... at this point she's only lost what, 13/14 days?

So I suppose she'll actually be 18 years old on March 12?

* brain explodes * confused

EBearhug Fri 28-Feb-14 23:47:59

I was born in a leap year, and we had a couple of 29th February classmates at school. They usually celebrated on the 28th, but couldn't legally drink till 1st March, I think, the year we all turned 18. (This was a bit academic, given most of us went to the pub anyway, because we knew which ones we'd be least like to be asked for ID in.) I think their birthdays were more special on leap years, though.

BackforGood Fri 28-Feb-14 23:43:09

It won't be an issue though will it, as all teens I know, don't actually start the serious "going out" until after I'm tucked up at home with my cocoa, so she probably will be 18 by the time she hits the clubs / trendy pubs wink

PerfectlySculpturedHaHa Fri 28-Feb-14 23:32:21

yy re sinister overtones of thread title

nannynewo Fri 28-Feb-14 23:16:57

I know several people with feb 29th birthdays. Facebook stated it was their birthday today. Not sure you can use it for a good source though ;)

namechangejustforthisone Fri 28-Feb-14 22:59:33

My birthday is 29th February. My provisional driving licence was valid from 28th.

evertonmint Fri 28-Feb-14 15:50:03

So I looked it up and it turns out that leap babies legally turn 18 on 1st March for electoral purposes, so they couldn't vote if there was an election today and would have to wait until tomorrow. This is in official Electoral Commission documents rather than just someone on the internet saying it is this, so I think I believe it.

From this article it seems like it might be the same for driving licences and buying alcohol.

But other countries are more lenient and let them do it on 28th February!

CrohnicallyFarting Thu 27-Feb-14 22:05:50

Just trying to think of some more examples of where someone's exact age would make a difference. Because my question was more 'on what day does she legally turn 18?' than 'would you risk serving this girl alcohol?'

Police legally need a parent/guardian there to interview someone under 17. So if they interviewed someone on Feb 28th who was due to turn 17 on 29th would they need a guardian there or not?

Lottery tickets aren't a problem because you need to be 16 for those, and the year you turn 16 should be a leap year (unless you were born in 2084 in which case it hasn't happened yet so no need to worry).

The age of criminal responsibility is 11, so if you committed a crime on feb 28th the year you should turn 11 on the 29th, are you responsible or not?

What about driving a car? Last year she could have got her provisional licence. Would it have been valid from Feb 28th or March 1st?

HadABadDay2014 Thu 27-Feb-14 21:55:01

It's like those who are September born especially 1st of September they turn 16 but can't leave school until June the following year and the parents would still get school fines or letters about attendance.

MaureenMLove Thu 27-Feb-14 21:53:30

DD, went out for a friends 18th on the day before she was 18. She doesn't drink anyway, so alcohol wasn't going to be an issue. She didn't even get through the door of the pub! They wouldn't let her in. sad

However, on the day after her 18th, we went to the pub, because DH insisted she had to buy him a pint. She had two 18 badges on and when she went to the bar, no one even asked her for her ID. When DH questioned them later, they said it was obvious her age, because she had a 18th badge on! hmmgrin

Bearbehind Thu 27-Feb-14 21:49:33

I definitely thought you meant she'd meet her maker before she was 18 too.

Technically her birthday is the day after 28th Feb which, for 3 years out of 4, is 1st March but if she is anything like the rest of us she's been drinking in pubs for at least 2 years with fake id so where's the problem?

CrohnicallyFarting Thu 27-Feb-14 21:47:50

Annabelle Maybe not in court, but I bet they'd get a fixed penalty fine or whatever the equivalent is!

CrohnicallyFarting Thu 27-Feb-14 21:45:28

Could you not wait till midnight? Ensure everyone went out for a leisurely sit down meal with copious wine first, then off to a club after midnight?

It sucks though, being 17 when all your friends are 18!

IShouldBeDoingSomethingElse Thu 27-Feb-14 21:44:10

I agree, if your birthday is the 59th day of the year then some years that's 29th Feb and if it's not, it's the first of March.

AnnabelleLee Thu 27-Feb-14 21:43:51

underage drinking is taken seriously, but someone ending up in court because of one person drinking/buying alcohol the day before they turn 18 because their actual birthday doesn't happen? Come off it. reductio ad absurdum.

BeCool Thu 27-Feb-14 21:43:40

29th Feb birthday is a February born person not March. I think it is elegant and correct to celebrate in Feb.

MrsGarlic Thu 27-Feb-14 21:40:07

I don't know about leap year babies, but I received my A-level results a day before my 18th birthday (they came out on the 17th and I turned 18 on the 18th). I was not allowed into any of the pubs or bars, they were checking all IDs thoroughly I guess because plenty of underagers would try it on that day? So I couldn't celebrate with everyone else sad

CrohnicallyFarting Thu 27-Feb-14 21:39:59

HadaBadDay- that would be my view too. It's just not worth the risk.

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