to think that people with asthma who smoke are selfish?

[quaginty]

People with bad asthma/copd/other lung conditions who cost NHS hundreds of pounds for treatment then fuck up the treatment by smoking.

Wonder why they feel shit then go have another fag at the hospital door then back up for more meds!

[LaurieFairyCake]

It's called addiction

Look it up sometime

[expatinscotland]

Get a life.

[ThatBloodyWoman]

I used to smoke and I have asthma.

I hope you are as perfect as you seem to think you are op.

[Sirzy]

You could go on forever listing things people do which cost the NHS money

I think to smoke when you have asthma is pretty daft but I wouldn't call if selfish

[Hotmad]

A lot of disease today is caused by lifestyle choices and the nhs helps them too, type 2 diabetics, heart disease, hypertension.

[quaginty]

what if you have young kids and are at high risk of dying from it and are frequently in ICU then come out and continue on 20 a day?

[LaurieFairyCake]

Actually Hotmad, those diseases are mostly due to poverty.

[ThatBloodyWoman]

Also , remember that starting smoking can often pre -date the asthma/lung condition, so the addiction has already taken hold.It's not always a case of starting smoking knowing you have a existing lung condition.

[pennygallops]

It's just not that black and white.

[expatinscotland]

What if you spent your time being more positive rather than thinking about who is worse than you?

[quaginty]

and they stand and puff away at the hospital doors. Forcing everyone else to breathe in their shit.

[LaurieFairyCake]

Gosh you sound a bit angry.

Any particular reason ?

[Jjuice]

Odfod

[quaginty]

No it is not black and white.

But why not try and stop. why not make that your priority? Everyone else has to run around doing school/nursery runs as they are too breathless but can sit and home and puff away on a fag.

[BabyDubsEverywhere]

I am one of these very selfish people who smoked and also asthmatic. I also have a few serious mental health issues and tbh smoking is one of the very few things that actually gives me immediate (if temporary) relief. I will probably start smoking again after this baby is born. I feel no guilt over this, its my life and my choice thanks.

[mousmous]

well, smoking is selfish full stop.
but it is an addiction that is very hard to shake although I believe that many people just don't try hard enough

[quaginty]

Yes Laurie. Fed up of picking up pieces for someone who complains about being so ill constantly yet smokes 20 a day making it worse. While we all have to help with the small children.

[LaurieFairyCake]

Sounds like you have a personal axe to grind?

Stop picking up the kids, let them do it. ?

[quaginty]

Well done for stopping when pregnant. (not sarcastic}

[quaginty]

They can't.

[expatinscotland]

'But why not try and stop. why not make that your priority? Everyone else has to run around doing school/nursery runs as they are too breathless but can sit and home and puff away on a fag.'

So you personally know every single asthmatic who smokes and know for a fact they all have kids in school and someone else has to do their runs? How remarkable.

[Smoorikins]

I had am asthmatic neighbour who's doctor told him to start smoking again.

When he gave up, his asthma symptoms worsened. They would get him stabilised, but then he'd have another attack. After the third attack, the doctor was asking him and his wife about what had changed - wondering about allergic reactions etc - and when he discovered that he had stopped smoking about two weeks before his first attack, he told him that he had come across a case where smoking actually alleviated the symptoms, and maybe he should consider restarting if they couldn't find anything else that could be triggering it.

He did, and hasn't had an attack since - that was over two years ago.

[BabyDubsEverywhere]

Well stop helping then. There, that's solved :)

[expatinscotland]

Stop doing it then. And making threads with sweeping generalisations.

[CoteDAzur]

I thought you would say people with asthma who smoke are stupid.

What does 'selfish' have to do with it? It's not like they are doing something that benefits them to the detriment of others.

Look up the word 'selfish' as well as 'addiction' while you are at it.

YABU.