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to think that people with asthma who smoke are selfish?

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quaginty Wed 19-Feb-14 22:53:23

People with bad asthma/copd/other lung conditions who cost NHS hundreds of pounds for treatment then fuck up the treatment by smoking.

Wonder why they feel shit then go have another fag at the hospital door then back up for more meds!

LaurieFairyCake Wed 19-Feb-14 22:55:37

It's called addiction

Look it up sometime

expatinscotland Wed 19-Feb-14 22:57:32

Get a life.

ThatBloodyWoman Wed 19-Feb-14 22:59:12

I used to smoke and I have asthma.

I hope you are as perfect as you seem to think you are op.

Sirzy Wed 19-Feb-14 22:59:26

You could go on forever listing things people do which cost the NHS money

I think to smoke when you have asthma is pretty daft but I wouldn't call if selfish

Hotmad Wed 19-Feb-14 23:01:03

A lot of disease today is caused by lifestyle choices and the nhs helps them too, type 2 diabetics, heart disease, hypertension.

quaginty Wed 19-Feb-14 23:02:23

what if you have young kids and are at high risk of dying from it and are frequently in ICU then come out and continue on 20 a day?

LaurieFairyCake Wed 19-Feb-14 23:02:57

Actually Hotmad, those diseases are mostly due to poverty.

ThatBloodyWoman Wed 19-Feb-14 23:03:36

Also , remember that starting smoking can often pre -date the asthma/lung condition, so the addiction has already taken hold.It's not always a case of starting smoking knowing you have a existing lung condition.

pennygallops Wed 19-Feb-14 23:04:09

It's just not that black and white.

expatinscotland Wed 19-Feb-14 23:04:16

What if you spent your time being more positive rather than thinking about who is worse than you?

quaginty Wed 19-Feb-14 23:05:46

and they stand and puff away at the hospital doors. Forcing everyone else to breathe in their shit.

LaurieFairyCake Wed 19-Feb-14 23:06:39

Gosh you sound a bit angry.

Any particular reason ?

Jjuice Wed 19-Feb-14 23:07:21


quaginty Wed 19-Feb-14 23:07:23

No it is not black and white.

But why not try and stop. why not make that your priority? Everyone else has to run around doing school/nursery runs as they are too breathless but can sit and home and puff away on a fag.

BabyDubsEverywhere Wed 19-Feb-14 23:07:25

I am one of these very selfish people who smoked and also asthmatic. I also have a few serious mental health issues and tbh smoking is one of the very few things that actually gives me immediate (if temporary) relief. I will probably start smoking again after this baby is born. I feel no guilt over this, its my life and my choice thanks.

mousmous Wed 19-Feb-14 23:07:44

well, smoking is selfish full stop.
but it is an addiction that is very hard to shake although I believe that many people just don't try hard enough

quaginty Wed 19-Feb-14 23:09:14

Yes Laurie. Fed up of picking up pieces for someone who complains about being so ill constantly yet smokes 20 a day making it worse. While we all have to help with the small children.

LaurieFairyCake Wed 19-Feb-14 23:09:39

Sounds like you have a personal axe to grind?

Stop picking up the kids, let them do it. ?

quaginty Wed 19-Feb-14 23:10:10

Well done for stopping when pregnant. (not sarcastic}

quaginty Wed 19-Feb-14 23:10:41

They can't.

expatinscotland Wed 19-Feb-14 23:10:43

'But why not try and stop. why not make that your priority? Everyone else has to run around doing school/nursery runs as they are too breathless but can sit and home and puff away on a fag.'

So you personally know every single asthmatic who smokes and know for a fact they all have kids in school and someone else has to do their runs? How remarkable. hmm

Smoorikins Wed 19-Feb-14 23:11:07

I had am asthmatic neighbour who's doctor told him to start smoking again.

When he gave up, his asthma symptoms worsened. They would get him stabilised, but then he'd have another attack. After the third attack, the doctor was asking him and his wife about what had changed - wondering about allergic reactions etc - and when he discovered that he had stopped smoking about two weeks before his first attack, he told him that he had come across a case where smoking actually alleviated the symptoms, and maybe he should consider restarting if they couldn't find anything else that could be triggering it.

He did, and hasn't had an attack since - that was over two years ago.

BabyDubsEverywhere Wed 19-Feb-14 23:11:20

Well stop helping then. There, that's solved smile

expatinscotland Wed 19-Feb-14 23:11:26

Stop doing it then. And making threads with sweeping generalisations.

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