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What is a sinkhole?

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BetteDavis01 Tue 18-Feb-14 22:25:13

Does anyone know what causes them? I keep hearing about them on the news and there seems to be a new one appearing everyday. TIA smile

SarahAndFuck Tue 18-Feb-14 22:28:00

DH suggested something to do with underground streams and rivers eroding the earth and causing some sort of collapse into underground spaces.

Or something. I wasn't really listening at the time. grin

margaretofsavoy Tue 18-Feb-14 22:29:29

They can be artificial (old mine shafts etc) or natural (underground streams, gaps between rocks). If it rains enough, the earth on top becomes too soft and just falls into the hole.

I think.

Bearbehind Tue 18-Feb-14 22:29:51

Just watched BBC news and sarahs husband is spot on. Water underground dissolves some soil/ earth types and eventually everything above it collapses.

FrankelInFoal Tue 18-Feb-14 22:35:02

There was an excellent programme on BBC2 about natural sinkholes just a few weeks ago. It focused on the ones in Florida as apparently that is the most active place in the world for them. It is still available on iplayer for another 12 days

It's all to do with rock types - some will dissolve over time if exposed to water. When the rock has dissolved sufficiently to not be able to support the weight of the soil above it, it will collapse in on itself, leaving a sink hole.

Abbierhodes Tue 18-Feb-14 23:22:04

I read a book once where a murderer hid his bodies in a sinkhole. There's no getting them back for forensics, I remember that much.

pixiepotter Tue 18-Feb-14 23:25:53

In this area there are parts with a lot of gypsum underground.The water erodes it and makes underground cavities, eventually the weight above it becomes too great and the surface collapses and falls down into the cavity leaving a big hole.

FoxesRevenge Tue 18-Feb-14 23:26:48

They're quite common in Limestone areas apparently.

AgentProvocateur Tue 18-Feb-14 23:27:19

I'm glad you asked. I've been wondering too. These ones that swallow whole houses - where do they actually go?

AgentProvocateur Tue 18-Feb-14 23:28:11

I mean how far down do they go?

FoxesRevenge Tue 18-Feb-14 23:29:08

Scares the shit out of me. Florida is supposed to be one big sink hole. I don't think I could live anywhere if I knew it was at risk of that. Same with earthquakes.

NigellasDealer Tue 18-Feb-14 23:29:30

yes gypsum or limestone, such as the karst around Trieste or in Florida, or chalk such as in the south of England. Or old mine workings.
(been reading up on sinkholes)

FoxesRevenge Tue 18-Feb-14 23:35:38

The Etihad stadium in Manchester was built over and around old mines. It triggered off a cluster of around 100 earthquakes back in 2002.

Makes you wonder about all this fracking malarkey.

Faverolles Tue 18-Feb-14 23:36:16

The most recent sinkhole was from gypsum dizzolving.
A geologist on tv said that a van sized lump of gypsum in a river would disappear within 18 hours.

Faverolles Tue 18-Feb-14 23:37:52

Dissolve? blush

Yes, I've wondered if fracking would increase chances of sinkholes.
I've read it increases earthquakes.

Bogeyface Tue 18-Feb-14 23:46:45

I feel so sorry for those people and their neighbours, they will never sell their homes, never get insurance.....they are stuck. sad

CrispyFB Tue 18-Feb-14 23:50:22

BBC article posted today was really interesting:

SconeRhymesWithGone Tue 18-Feb-14 23:51:59

Making of a sinkhole

Terrortree Tue 18-Feb-14 23:58:50

I have one between two of my fields but as it's covered up by fifteen feet of soil, you wouldn't know it was there. I do, however, crap myself when I drive over it!

The structure of surface land is that it is holds together sufficient enough for me to traverse it - the ground has essentially built a bridge over the water flow. However, if the ground water swells (e.g. surpass it's river capacity, just like a river, it would 'burst its banks'. The water would be forced into the weakest spots. Ergo, the pressure of a group of houses together, the weakest spot would be the garden area.

Just like squeezing a spot - all the stuff comes out of a diddy weakpoint!

Terrortree Wed 19-Feb-14 00:00:33

e.g. surpasses its water capacity.

Shit I need to go back to school!

FoxesRevenge Wed 19-Feb-14 00:38:55

Terrortree you drive over it??? Fuck that shock

Terrortree Wed 19-Feb-14 00:41:01

In my tractor! But that is the sinkhole I know about. I could have 100 more that I don't know about.

Live life on the limit me!

HoneyDragon Wed 19-Feb-14 00:42:11

We've just had one in town today. My initial thoughts were for the poor homes and businesses nearby. It wil bugger teir insurance sad

HoneyDragon Wed 19-Feb-14 00:43:55

And saying that I've just had confirmation it wasn't one grin

FoxesRevenge Wed 19-Feb-14 00:44:17

Mother Nature is certainly calling the shots. You can't fight her and shouldn't mess with her.

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