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to think David Starkey is an utter ****

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lessonsintightropes Thu 06-Feb-14 23:26:43

Anyone else watching Question Time? His utter, utter contempt for tube workers and the audience has pushed me from being slightly anti-striker to competely pro because of his horribly entitled and offensive responses. He can't even name Bob Crow correctly (called him Bill). Now I hate Bob Crow as much as the next person and am as grumpy as the next London commuter about the strike (OK, a bit less as I live in South London).... but the Mayor has refused to even meet the Union for five years, so I can see that there might be legitimate unheard grievances. This shower of ignorance just appears to be ignoring all of it and throwing petrol on the fire...

Nucky Fri 07-Feb-14 14:07:20

He's a horrible man. He said some astonishingly racist things back during the London riots even quoting the Enoch Powell's 'Rivers of Blood' speech on Newsnight.

TunipTheUnconquerable Fri 07-Feb-14 14:06:55

He's surprisingly good on Katherine Howard.

HenriettaMaria Fri 07-Feb-14 14:03:18

Oh, sod it.

That should read 'his Moral Maze persona' and: 'his own specialist historical era'. blush

I wasn't trying to imply that he's a dinosaur or out of touch or anything.

There again...

HenriettaMaria Fri 07-Feb-14 13:57:21

I think he just plays a caricature of Moral Maze persona these days, really.

I can't really judge him as a Tudor historian as I've only seen him on telly and haven't read any of his research; but, outside of his own historical era, he is just as 'partial, prejudiced and ignorant' as any other lay person, IME.

I could sort of tolerate his wrongheaded political opinions if he didn't shower everyone else, especially women, with such contempt.

And if he learned a few basic manners.

dinster Fri 07-Feb-14 13:10:30

On 5Live afterwards, Stephen Nolan remarked on what a good edition QT had been because it was so lively. It's as though the programme makers think anything where people get het up is a sign of quality broadcasting, never mind that the standard of debate was just woeful. I actually feel quite upset at how bad it was - there are so many clever, thoughtful, well-informed people we could hear from, why do they have to book ignorant, insulting, self-promoters?

squoosh Fri 07-Feb-14 12:57:18

Happy to see he doesn't have his documentary gig on Channel 4 anymore. Maybe that's what's made the poor diddums so angry.

HoratiaDrelincourt Fri 07-Feb-14 12:51:25

I did not stab him with anything.

He got his first telly job on the basis of being controversial and quirky-looking. He was put forward for it by a former student working in telly.

In other words, they aren't hiring him for his history, any more than they hire Hatie Kopkins for her business experience. They get air time because they generate debate.

The tellyists don't give a shit if we agree or not, so long as we talk about it.

IrishBloodEnglishHeart Fri 07-Feb-14 12:50:11

Starkey is not a national treasure, not in my treasure trove anyway, he is an irritating cliche.

VoldysGoneMouldy Fri 07-Feb-14 12:27:04

I remember him being interviewed on the radio a few years ago, can't remember exactly what it was about, but some issue surrounding women. I was slack jawed with horror within moments, having only seen his Tudor series before that.

Seixst racist prick. And, I imagine, adores Elizabeth I to the point that if you even dared suggest the possibility that she HAD slept with Robert Duddley to him, he would spontaneously combust. Do suspect The Virgin Queen is about the only woman he likes in any way.


SauceForTheGander Fri 07-Feb-14 12:26:05

DoctorQuinn do you really think Galloway and Starkey are national treasures?

flippinada Fri 07-Feb-14 11:56:45

Ahem. History A level smile .

flippinada Fri 07-Feb-14 11:55:57

I should make it clear that I mean history level. I didn't ^ choose^ to read his turgid nonsense.

senua Fri 07-Feb-14 11:54:56

Wish I'd seen it

As said above, he is a toddler saying PooBumWilly in the hope that someone will react. Please don't fall for it.

flippinada Fri 07-Feb-14 11:53:45

David Starkey is a deeply unpleasant individual and always has been.

He was around being obnoxious when I was doing A-Levels more than 20 years ago and hasn't improved inbetween times.

stopprocrastinating Fri 07-Feb-14 11:46:51



National Treasures - As in should be buried in a large hole with only a vague pirate map to find them wink

ginmakesitallok Fri 07-Feb-14 11:15:07

God it must have been bad, even the school lollipop man was talking about it this am. Wish I'd seen it

DoctorQuinn Fri 07-Feb-14 11:11:35

David Starkey is a wonderfully entertaining man when he's annoyed about something. Not only that but he talks a lot of sense.

The same is true of George Galloway.

Both are national treasures.

gotthemoononastick Fri 07-Feb-14 11:11:30

Brainpower is THE aphrodisiac..... so erudite!He is hot!

Osmiornica Fri 07-Feb-14 11:10:52

At one point he said something about 'behaving like adults' in response to one of the women in the audience which is ironic considering he behaved like a petulant child through it (albeit an incredibly rude and obnoxious child).

When can we start having a proper sensible civilised debate between politicians in this country? Parliament is hardly any better.

squoosh Fri 07-Feb-14 11:09:33

I could only watch five minutes, I would have watched more but yesterday's rage levels were already perilously high.

He's an utter cunt. Remember when he said in reference to the London riots "What has happened is that a substantial section of the chavs that you wrote about have become black."

Or this gem

"Listen to David Lammy, an archetypal successful black man. If you turn the screen off so that you are listening to him on radio you would think he was white."

HavantGuard Fri 07-Feb-14 11:02:48

'They all thought calling him a despicabe misogynist cunt was a profound slur on the despicable misogynist cunt community. '

That's the most apt description of him I've seen.

squoosh Fri 07-Feb-14 11:02:46

'I know a few folks that were taught by him twenty years or so ago. They all thought calling him a despicabe misogynist cunt was a profound slur on the despicable misogynist cunt community.'

Brilliant! grin

DorisAllTheDay Fri 07-Feb-14 10:46:39

I thought he was rude and obnoxious, and I've written to the BBC to ask that he's not invited again. He talked over everyone else, and when a woman from the audience struggled a bit for words he made fun of her. That's not on. I don't expect to agree with everything said by the QT panel, and some views are in my opinion rather obnoxious, but so long as they debate them with a basic level of respect for other panelists and the audience I think that's fair enough. Starkey doesn't do that. He should not be asked to participate again.

KissesBreakingWave Fri 07-Feb-14 10:42:04

All that says is that yoghurt-knitters have some basic standards of human decency. I've no more respect for the lentil-weaving pinks than the cowards and traitors of the conservative end of the spectrum, but at least they don't see the likes of Starkey as worth the spit to insult him with. Useful man on the primary sources, but hasn't the brains of a potted ficus plant when it comes to figuring out human motivation.

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