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2cats2many Tue 04-Feb-14 19:09:37 should use the clearly marked, clean and almost-empty family change room rather than the women's change room?

I approached him and said quietly: "Do you know that you are in the women's change room?" To which he replied: "Yes, but she insists in coming in here and the alternative would be a big, screaming fight. I'm actually quite uncomfortable." He then made a swift exit.

Well, guess what- so are all the women who are using the changing room in the reasonable expectation that they would be able to get showered and changed in the mostly shared facilities (just a few cubicles) without being joined by a man.

In his position, I would have the big screaming fight.

foreverondiet Tue 04-Feb-14 19:11:15

OMG! Can't believe he thought it was acceptable!!!!

meditrina Tue 04-Feb-14 19:11:56


There are family changing rooms.

He needs to deal with the fight with his DD, not - as an adult man - to go into female changing rooms.

phantomnamechanger Tue 04-Feb-14 19:12:06

what a weirdo! did you not report him, or was he just leaving anyway?

Ifcatshadthumbs Tue 04-Feb-14 19:12:41

I think I would have reported him to a member of staff and told him to grow a pair and deal with the screaming fit.

Megrim Tue 04-Feb-14 19:13:11


Your swimming pool should have an "adult males allowed only in the male changing room / adult females only allowed in the female changing room" policy.

As a swimming club administrator I have had to have an adult female hauled out of the male changing rooms (and have a stand up row with her about it).

ALittleStranger Tue 04-Feb-14 19:13:51

YANBU, obviously.

missymayhemsmum Tue 04-Feb-14 19:14:23

Poor bloke!
Total screaming tantrum from small daughter or be branded a peeping tom. What a choice!

SauvignonBlanche Tue 04-Feb-14 19:15:07

YANBU, I hope you complained?

2cats2many Tue 04-Feb-14 19:15:14

I know. Its just crazy.

To be honest, I didn't want to make his daughter uncomfortable, but if I see him in there again next week at the same time, I am going to tell him that I'll have to tell the staff if he keeps coming in. Its totally not on in my opinion.

HappyMamaBear Tue 04-Feb-14 19:16:18


ALittleStranger Tue 04-Feb-14 19:16:24

Does AIBU have some kind of tedious dissent quota? hmm

RandomMess Tue 04-Feb-14 19:16:44

FGS if those were the options I would have got her dressed at the side of the pool - even if it was just clothes over top of cossie and shoes on!!!

I suppose I would have given the dd 2 "acceptable" options.

craftynclothy Tue 04-Feb-14 19:17:20

Yanbu. Changing rooms at our pool have signs up saying no members of the opposite sex over 8yo.

aquashiv Tue 04-Feb-14 19:18:24

Our swimming pool has the family change in the ladies
silly planning

2cats2many Tue 04-Feb-14 19:19:08

Why unreasonable HappyMamaBear? Does everyone else in the leisure centre have to bend to the whim of a 4 year old as well as her dad?

YouStayClassySanDiego Tue 04-Feb-14 19:21:05

No it's absolutely not on.

Imagine being a woman and your ds insisting on going into a men only changing room; you'd take the screaming abdabs all bloody day !!

How odd.

lougle Tue 04-Feb-14 19:21:20

It's difficult. I take my DDs to swimming lessons and there is always a lady in the ladies changing rooms who brings her DS (around 6-7, but with SN) into the changing rooms and changes him there, so that she can help him and keep an eye on her DD.

The trouble is that my DD, also 6, possibly with SN (ongoing investigation/suspicion) gets absolutely distressed that this boy is in the changing rooms because he might see her. So, I and DD1's carer, have to try and get DD1 (who is 8 with SN -special school), DD3 (4) and DD2 changed, while DD2 is going into meltdown because there is only one toilet and an open changing area, with nowhere to 'hide' from this boy.

As a parent of a child with SN myself, I can see why the lady feels she must bring her DS in. But the question I ask is 'in this situation, is the gender of the 'changer' or the gender of the 'changee' the important factor?'

Goldmandra Tue 04-Feb-14 19:21:24

I wouldn't be waiting to see if he does it again before speaking to the staff. I would let them know about this conversation and ask them to have someone in the changing room at the appropriate time next week to deal with it.

Stuff whether he is comfortable. It's not about his needs or his daughter's wishes.

He's in for a rough ride when she's a teenager!

2cats2many Tue 04-Feb-14 19:25:28

Bit lougle in your scenario at my swimming pool you could all use the family change area which has large family-sized cubicles to get changed in together, but in privacy. No one would have to be in the ladies or the mens if they didn't want to be.

ALittleStranger Tue 04-Feb-14 19:26:27

Lougle with respect that's a different conversation, one regarding whether the rules that hold in 99% of swimming pools about children under eight being allowed in the "wrong" changing rooms are appropriate.

candycoatedwaterdrops Tue 04-Feb-14 19:27:50

It's not that he would have been accused of being a peeping tom but many woman would prefer not to change in front of a man!

RubyrooUK Tue 04-Feb-14 19:30:46

I'm obviously soft. I don't think he should have come in. But as the parent of small children, I would assume he had made a dumb decision through a fog of sleep deprivation and/or a moment of stress when faced with a tantrum. You told him that he shouldn't be in there, he left. I would only be annoyed if he hadn't got the message on a subsequent occasion.

Pimpf Tue 04-Feb-14 19:31:08

I don't think I'd be having a quiet word, I would have complained straight away to a member of staff. Utterly ridiculous that an adult is letting a child dictate to them.

WitchWay Tue 04-Feb-14 19:33:09

He needs to stand up to his daughter - wonder if he only sees her at weekends & doesn't like to refuse anything

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