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to think a stew with a pastry lid is not a pie?

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mousmous Wed 18-Dec-13 12:47:25

such a dissapointment!

OpheliasWeepingWillow Wed 18-Dec-13 12:50:35


Very upsetting

BuntyPenfold Wed 18-Dec-13 12:51:20

It was always just that in our house, a casserole/stew with a pastry lid.
I know from working in the local that that is what they do too, a giant tub of stew in fridge, a frozen lid shape of puff-pastry to bake on top.

No real construction involved.

sewingandcakes Wed 18-Dec-13 12:52:52

I pie's not a pie, for me, unless it's encased completely in pastry.

somersethouse Wed 18-Dec-13 12:53:09

Definitely NBU. It is NOT a pie!

Rollermum Wed 18-Dec-13 12:53:54

YANBU - always a disappointment!

UsedToBeNDP Wed 18-Dec-13 12:54:44

Suits me. Much rather that than loads of pastry and a measly amount of filling. A lot of pastry makes me feel a bit bloaty so the 'hat' pie is a winner for me.

Patilla Wed 18-Dec-13 12:55:51

May we take it that you have been disappointed this lunchtime OP?!

DoctorTwoTurtleDoves Wed 18-Dec-13 12:56:36

It's a pot pie. YABU.

Binkyridesagain Wed 18-Dec-13 12:57:42

The pastry is the only reason to have pie, especially if its buttery. Mmmmm


MaxPepsi Wed 18-Dec-13 12:58:18

Was it served in an individual pot with the lid baked on?
If so, it will pass as a pie for me.

Served in a pot with a lid placed on, I'd let it go but would be unhappy.

Slapped on a plate with a lid just chucked on any old how? I'd send it back!!

trikken Wed 18-Dec-13 12:58:22

I agree with you OP. Needs pastry sides and a bottom too.

mousmous Wed 18-Dec-13 13:00:26

yep. local cafe had goulash 'pie' on offer.

it's. just. not. right.
I was expecting something I could hold in my hand and eat.
made my feelings known...

Middleagedmotheroftwo Wed 18-Dec-13 13:00:49

Pies have to have bottoms and sides as well as tops. And nice thick gravy/sauce. I hate the pseudo pies served in many pubs and the like.

mousmous Wed 18-Dec-13 13:01:05

slapped on a plate with a cheffy disk of pastry.

Chippednailvarnish Wed 18-Dec-13 13:02:24

Its a pot pie...

mousmous Wed 18-Dec-13 13:02:51

the goulash was delicious, though.
was tempted to offload a pile of my ramekins so they have no! excuse! next time.

Joysmum Wed 18-Dec-13 13:05:39

Pies should have tops, bottoms and sides so the yummy filling can soak in. Shouldn't be too thick though, nor at the expense of lots of yummy filling.

That's what I make as a pie - home made slow cooked stew, into pie tin, home made pastry lid. My kids wouldn't eat more pastry than that, DH and I wouldn't want more pastry than the lid, and I cba to blind bake a pie case... Its better with just the pastry lid.

For sweet pies I do the pastry base.

In a cafe or restaurant... it depends on the type of place I guess... would you really pick a pie up in your hand in a knife and fork place? Should it not come with gravey?

Pie from a bakery or butchers to be eaten as take away or for a picnic should be pick-upable so should have the case, and could be eaten cold.

Different pies for different circumstances, all still pies, IMO fgrin

MrsCakesPremonition Wed 18-Dec-13 13:07:55

I can just about live with a pie that doesn't have a bottom - so long as it comes in it's own dish and there is a really thick bit of crust where the lid is attached to the dish.

But I do object to the sort of place that gives you a ladle of stew and a separate rectangle of puff pastry, which have obviously never met before being plonked on my plate.

Shepherds pie is not a pie but still called pie... much to my 6 year old's disgust

UsedToBeNDP Wed 18-Dec-13 13:11:28

And a pasty is filling entirely cased in pastry but isn't a pie


frogspoon Wed 18-Dec-13 13:14:16

I would still call that a pie, as it does actually have a pastry lid.

However I have had stews with little pastry dumpling things sold to me as "pies", when they are clearly not pies.

BoreOfWhabylon Wed 18-Dec-13 13:16:25

A pie is only a pie if filling and topping are cooked together, in an oven. That is my the rule.

My granny made lovely stews. Next day the leftover stew would appear in a pie with top, bottom and sides in delicious shortcrust pastry (pastry always made with lard).

Now THAT was a real pie, none of your cheffy disc of flaky nonsense.

KatAndKit Wed 18-Dec-13 13:18:20

yANBU the "faux pie" is one of my pet hates. A pie is cooked in a pie dish and has top and bottom pastry. I particularly like bottom pastry as it is a bit soggy with pie gravy. A stew with a puff lid is not a pie at all.

no blind baking required here. Buy packet of shortcrust pastry, roll out, assemble pie, in the oven. Works fine for me.

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