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So is minus 4 lower than minus 5 celsius - scratchcard confusion

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OrlandoWoolf Sun 08-Dec-13 21:55:24

Camelot have withdrawn a scratchcard where you had to find a temperature lower than the one on the card.

"Tina Farrell, from Levenshulme, called Camelot after failing to win with several cards.

The 23-year-old, who said she had left school without a maths GCSE, said: "On one of my cards it said I had to find temperatures lower than -8. The numbers I uncovered were -6 and -7 so I thought I had won, and so did the woman in the shop. But when she scanned the card the machine said I hadn't.

"I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it. "

I blame the teachers grin

ShylaMcClaus Sun 08-Dec-13 21:56:59

Oh Christ...

Mintyy Sun 08-Dec-13 21:58:14


ThreeBeeOneGee Sun 08-Dec-13 21:58:19

My DD (Y5) has been doing this as her homework this week (negative numbers and inequalities, not gambling).

NoComet Sun 08-Dec-13 22:00:08

DD2 could do minus numbers when she was 5 or 6

All the fault of a card game where the aim is to get the lowest score.

I just drew a mountain going into the sea as a number line.

LuciusMalfoyisSmokingHot Sun 08-Dec-13 22:00:49

I dont have a maths GCSE, but even i frigging know that -6 is higher than -8, clue being the minus flips the numbers in reverse.

ShylaMcClaus Sun 08-Dec-13 22:01:04

It would be even funnier if Tina had left school with an A* in mathematics grin

LambinsideaDuckinsideaTrout Sun 08-Dec-13 22:01:31

Not surprised at all.

farrowandbawlbauls Sun 08-Dec-13 22:01:46

I fear for future sometimes.

OrlandoWoolf Sun 08-Dec-13 22:02:34

I love the idea she was fobbed off with some story grin

furbaby Sun 08-Dec-13 22:03:10

If its lower than -8 it would have to be -9 -10 -11 etc

Minus numbers go up rather than down ....

Plus numbers go up and minus the opposite

well thats what the teachers taught me many moons ago smile

sapfu Sun 08-Dec-13 22:03:59

Me too. And "I'm not having it."

And 'it' being basic maths too.


OrlandoWoolf Sun 08-Dec-13 22:06:18

Do you think she rang up the Manchester Evening News with her "story"?

Or Camelot provided her details to them for a laugh grin

NoArmaniNoPunani Sun 08-Dec-13 22:07:47

This is from 2007. I wonder why it's suddenly news again. I've seen it posted on FB too.

OrlandoWoolf Sun 08-Dec-13 22:08:59

I hadn't noticed the date. I saw it on TES so linked to it.

wonkylegs Sun 08-Dec-13 22:09:44

I saw this earlier and asked 5yo DS if he knew which way round it goes - he does.

ChrisMooseMickey Sun 08-Dec-13 22:11:07


ShylaMcClaus Sun 08-Dec-13 22:11:35

Perhaps Tina is trying to sue Camelot and it's just coming to court.

Caitlin17 Sun 08-Dec-13 23:48:50

Oh dear. It's so bleedin' obvious that to be lower than -8 the numbers would have to be -9,-10 etcetera that I had to spend time trying to work out why Tina could possibly think -6 or -7 were lower.

LuciusMalfoyisSmokingHot Sun 08-Dec-13 23:57:29

That would mean she might have had a winner and chucked it.

FortyDoorsToNowhere Sun 08-Dec-13 23:59:00

I would want to comment on a person lack of math skills, but it's simple just look on a thermometer -6 comes before -8

Trigglesx Mon 09-Dec-13 00:01:44

perhaps drawing a number line would've helped? hmm

MrsCakesPremonition Mon 09-Dec-13 00:03:43

I wanted a photo of Tina doing her sad face.

PrincessFlirtyPants Mon 09-Dec-13 00:04:38

So is she pleased when the temperature "increases" from -8 degrees to minus -10 degrees as its getting warmer then? confused

Bogeyface Mon 09-Dec-13 00:06:34

To be fair, some people are not good with numbers. My dad was director level in a multinational when he retired but he would have probably have thought he had won, just because 6 is less than 8.

However, he would have cut his own face off rather than go to the papers and say "I am not having that!" . He would be embarrassed that he didnt understand it.

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