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NoWayNever Sun 20-Oct-13 09:37:47 neighbours, neither of whom work have managed to buy a brand new Honda! They have four kids, so I get they "need" a bigger car, but the car is only used for the school a school that is a twenty minute walk at the most!! Why is the state paying for that?? My DH and I both work and we have one child and we would struggle to buy a new car! Things like this make me unbelievably cross! Aibu??? Rant over!!

LuisSuarezTeeth Sun 20-Oct-13 23:37:32


Shut the door behind you. Thanks.

tshirtsuntan Sun 20-Oct-13 22:23:06

My car is old and cost me 750 quid, I am so glad to have it. I know so many people who may never have a car and are totally resigned to it.Anyone who has a better car than me (most drivers!) May enjoy and drive away to their hearts content safe in the knowledge I will never question where they got the wherewithal for their superior wheels grin

Famzilla Sun 20-Oct-13 21:50:37

Jealousy is never going to get you a better car OP.

I hate this ridiculous daily mail mentality of people on benefits with loads of kid getting a golden throne to shit on the rest of us working folk with. It just doesn't happen.

I used to be friends with a single mum. She did part time hairdressing but got all her rent paid, tax credits etc. She sent her DD to private school, was going on 2 long haul holidays a year, had loads of designer clothes etc. I used to assume she just wasn't declaring her income or something as I didn't believe for 2 seconds that a life on full benefits could be anything less than a struggle to make ends meet every week.

She declared herself bankrupt a month ago. Debt the size (and price) of a house. It's horrendous how much money companies will throw at people who have no real way to pay it back.

ReluctantBeing Sun 20-Oct-13 21:34:48


thebestbitisthelastbit Sun 20-Oct-13 21:32:12

And out come the regulars! We do not judge .......we educate! Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and not once has the OP accused everyone on benefits as being lower than her - you have put those words into her mouth. It is allowed to read a paper that has a Tory bias, it's also allowed to air a view about benefits....just not here clearly. Not everyone claiming benefits does so legitimately I am sure if the post had begun with "I think my neighbour, friend, aunty Mildred is fraudulently claiming benefit" you would have been telling her to pick up the phone!!

I think it is time to frequent a less two faced coming too NoWayNever?

SunshineSuperNova Sun 20-Oct-13 21:06:55

YABU and goady.

TondelayoSchwarzkopf Sun 20-Oct-13 21:00:41

If it's the Mumsnet rule that you're not allowed to have a different opinion, why haven't they deleted all the OP's posts?

Heartbrokenmum73 Sun 20-Oct-13 20:58:23

And OP you are not alone in in your thoughts, lots of others think the same too, we just don`t post here for the reasons you have just experienced...

Orrrrrr because the majority of MN aren't ignorant bigots and would put you straight if you did post such bollocks, as has happened on this thread!

Happy to see the intelligent MNers out in force once again today. Keep it up people!

Gileswithachainsaw Sun 20-Oct-13 20:53:28

I'm perfectly fine with people having their own opinions.however supporting all the "getting too much "bollocks spoken by the daily mail and Tories when their cuts are putting families through hell is not ok on any level.

TondelayoSchwarzkopf Sun 20-Oct-13 20:31:35

Am I missing something? It's a fucking HONDA ... not a Porsche Cayenne.

Tweasels Sun 20-Oct-13 20:30:40

It's not the "mumsnet rule" though is it. It's just common decency.

"It's not allowed to have an opinion that the regulars don't agree with"

That's bullshit as well.

It's not about rules or regulars or even political leanings. It's about educating people not to make assumptions about people's lifestyles and helping people to understand that all unemployed people are not some lower class of people who aren't allowed nice things.

And yes I will judge the OP, for holding ignorant views. Obviously it's OK for you and her to judge people who don't work but it's not OK for others to judge you for holding those views.

thebestbitisthelastbit Sun 20-Oct-13 20:21:00

Poor OP, clearly has fallen foul of the MNrule of never speaking out of turn if you read The Mail or vote tory (or as happened here, accused of it even though no one knows for sure)! You must be new is not allowed to have an opinion that the regulars do not agree with! You will be judged harshly, beaten with the proverbial shitty stick and called names...never fear they will be berating someone else for their comment tomorrow and you will be left in peace again. And OP you are not alone in in your thoughts, lots of others think the same too, we just don`t post here for the reasons you have just experienced...

perplexedpirate Sun 20-Oct-13 17:16:07

Do you know, I saw some poor people the other day that had the audacity to be clean and well fed!!
They didn't even doff their caps as I went by, or stand in the gutter to let my better, working self pass!
Country's gone to the dogs, I tell you.

Iamsparklyknickers Sun 20-Oct-13 15:40:04

The absolute bastards! They should be walking to school in their bare feet grateful for a free education.

Cars!?! What a piss take.


Mia4 Sun 20-Oct-13 15:34:06

OP, you really have no idea and unless you have real evidence they are on the fiddle somehow then you should consider that.

My sister could be looked at oddly for being on benefits and yet she can afford some designer clothes and has a (not that expensive but brand-new looking) car.

Her lovely clothes came from ebay and she never buys anything more than a tenner, her car is actually my cousin's car but he's no longer allowed to drive for the next year and is lending it to her. She uses freecycle, ebay and car boots a lot and is very very clever at using coupons, groupons and offers.

But you'd probably think she was on the fiddle because she has fancy clothes, a lush car and sometimes gets to go out for dinner to nice places all while being a single mum on benefits.

I get how unreasonable and upset envy can make a person, I've been there with various very high wage earning friends who barely work, and yes you do think it's unfair and 'how come they get that' but ultimately it's your issue and you need to consider who might be looking at your life thinking 'that's so unfair, do you deserve that when I...'

Heartbrokenmum73 Sun 20-Oct-13 13:59:40

Well, as one of those flamin' benefits scroungers claimants, with three dc, I'd just like to point out that we live pretty meanly and don't have a car, nor can I afford driving lessons. We've had the same flatscreen tv for over five years now (and we bought it in a supermarket - oh, the horror!) and I've yet to receive my goat.

OP - you sound delightful and I really wish you were my judgy neighbour because people like you are just the best kind to have.

Anyway, I'm off - need to give my kids more lessons in pocket picking!

lifehasafunnywayofhelpinguout Sun 20-Oct-13 13:49:42

May I ask "how do you know for certain neither of them work" I know nothing about my neighbours and tbh I'm not interested. I couldn't care less what they have or don't have. What they claim or don't claim. It's none of my business. Like ways my business is also none of theirs. x

MrPumpkin Sun 20-Oct-13 13:44:11

I hate these threads, everyone making assumptions, only half reading other posters messages and using extracts from them to beat the poster with. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and do not deserve a load of abuse for expressing it. Maybe the OP was misguided in using mn to vent, but let's face it lots of you are doing exactly that too!

FreakinRexManningDay Sun 20-Oct-13 11:43:21

That was years ago and it still leaves me with a cold shiver when I think of it. And yes my friends are brilliant. My dh is actually the husbands best friend.

And before OP hops on me I stopped claiming when dh moved in after nearly two years.

Beccagain Sun 20-Oct-13 11:35:50


That is awful, and says it all, really.

Glad it's sorted for you (and that you have lovely friends!)

FreakinRexManningDay Sun 20-Oct-13 11:30:02

See this is why I hate gossip. Its the work of a wicked idle mind.
I got reported for claiming to be a lone parent when I actually was. They saw my best friends husband coming over each day for a couple of weeks and decided we were living together. My money was stopped whilst I was investigated and those five weeks were hell,I got into arrears with all my bills and rent. It was back payed but I was near suicide those weeks. The husband was laying laminate floor that had been in their house in my house as they got carpet.

You have no proof of anything OP so stick your beak back into your own business.

Beccagain Sun 20-Oct-13 11:27:47


fluffyraggies Sun 20-Oct-13 11:26:34

Thank you.

<smacks own hand for skimming thread> grin

YouTheCat Sun 20-Oct-13 11:23:50

It was another poster, Fluffy. But she thinks there are 15 million people in London so disregard as she knows nothing.

fluffyraggies Sun 20-Oct-13 11:22:55

Where's the 'millions and millions of people' bit from the OP? I cant see it and there's no post deletion notices confused

Keep your nose out anyway OP. You sound like Hyacinth Bucket.

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