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To be a bit suspicious of all the wide eyed 'why do muslims' and 'is this racist' threads?

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MrsDeVere Mon 07-Oct-13 12:55:18

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

nicename Thu 10-Oct-13 17:56:58

I don't wear knickers.

(Actually I do but it sounded funnier that 'I really hate flouncy generalisations').

EduCated Thu 10-Oct-13 17:48:20

Yes. Just yes to everything on this thread including the bizarrely deleted OP

I did post on the one thread. Left it after it turned into a 'haha all you MC, middle aged white people getting your knickers in a twist'. Cos they've got me there except the middle aged

YouTheCat Thu 10-Oct-13 17:37:21

I never much cared for SuperTed. Now I know why.

TheBigJessie Thu 10-Oct-13 17:36:05

Apropos of, erm, nothing much, my children really like Superted DVDs. My husband and I found that one or two episodes contained rather racist assumptions though.

YouTheCat Thu 10-Oct-13 15:59:54

Good grin

annoyednow Thu 10-Oct-13 15:31:45

Ok, YouTheCat, one less thing to be annoyed about in life.

YouTheCat Thu 10-Oct-13 15:11:37

Annoyed, my 'you're' was a general 'you're' - not pointing at Annoyed and proclaiming anything nasty.

annoyednow Thu 10-Oct-13 15:09:18

* You the Cat * "But if you're trying to make sweeping generalisations about one religion/race (which is usually the case) and those generalisations are (usually) misinformed then I'd call a racist a racist and a bigot a bigot. "

Ok, I'm a little confused re the above. Are you referring to my statements? Not having referred to any particular religion or anybody recent origins on the planet (as we all have same origins from Africa), that would really encapsulate what I'm trying to say. Do I get called a bigot and racist for simply believing all religions (ideas and practices) are equally fair game for opponents to comment on as much as the proponents. Both sides having a duty not to carelessly incite or hurt people. If the "you're" part is not referring to me, disregard this paragraph.

I forget the original post (and I haven't seen threads referred to), but if people are being disingenuous by using genuine issues with religion (any and every religion) as a vehicle to have a dig re the origins of it's adherents, that is weaselly.

Conversely, if people are being disingenuous and try to link and taint perfectly valid and reasonable comments about religion (any and every religion) by automatically calling the opponent bigoted or racist, then that is similarly weaselly. All religions (philosophies and practices) are equally fair game for reasonable comment.

I think it comes down to the individual. People can 'see' or 'not see'. They can similarly care or not care. It's not just education or culture. Some people can be decent in some ways, but not in others. Gosh, I feel old and weary. Where has idealism gone?

LittlePeaPod Thu 10-Oct-13 14:32:42

Noooooo grin #DawnDonna

nicename Thu 10-Oct-13 14:17:07

Which one (you can tell me...)?

Oh you'd be surprised... I was once threatened with a 'battering' because I made a joke about a prom dress. It amused me anyway because I'm from Glasgow and as hard as jelly nails..

YouTheCat Thu 10-Oct-13 14:16:04


Dawndonnaagain Thu 10-Oct-13 14:15:41

I think she means Fruity Ted no, sorry erm Adventure Ted erm, something.
Waits for deletion.

YouTheCat Thu 10-Oct-13 14:14:12

Sorry, I meant one of the other posters with an agenda.

Who would be nasty to you, Nicename?!

nicename Thu 10-Oct-13 14:11:29

Who, me? I don't have a pattern. I usually change when someone is nasty to me (complete wuss).

YouTheCat Thu 10-Oct-13 14:08:05

I wonder what the next name change will be. It'll be easy enough to spot. If I can spot it, then anyone can.

AmberLeaf Thu 10-Oct-13 14:06:02

shock at the op being deleted! WTH?

nicename Thu 10-Oct-13 14:04:33

Doesn't mumsnet have some sort of database to keep an eye on posters who have had threads deleted/complaints made against them and their various names/logins? That would make sure that people couldn't just keep namechanging and popping up.

LittlePeaPod Thu 10-Oct-13 14:01:32

MrsDeVere you are welcome... Please don't change! wink

Its a thread about a current trend on MN which I think is perfectly valid to discuss.

Couldn't agree more. There is a trend of ridiculous threads and it should be addressed. I still don't get why MN would allow the obviously goading / ridiculous threads to stay up yet they delete one that discusses the trend.. Munmnet HO please give us a clue?

nicename Thu 10-Oct-13 13:49:45

What did you do? Have you broken Mumsnet MrsDV? Own up, who complained?

I expect this thread will go pfffffft any time.


Now the problem I have, all youse lot on here (pin back your ears, I'm going to get all school ma'am here) is that the lovely, sensible posters (you know who you are) get their blood boiling and get all shouty at the numpties.

I have name changed a few times, but am often in the mêlée adding my tuppence-worth, so do recognise the 'tone' of some of the regulars. I get quite upset when I see the nice, sensible, normal posters getting upset with the ignorant posts.

I find that I meet very few absolute tossers in real life, while I tend to bump into a lot (or maybe just a few name changing like mad) on here. It's not the real world on here and to some, being irritating is no more than a hobby and if they can collect a few scalps on the way, all the better.

I know its hard to sit on your hands sometimes, but a troll or agitator is just in it for laughs, nothing more. Anyone asking genuine questions is there to be persuaded and will get involved in a discussion.

God knows, I try to see the good in everyone but even I'm not so naïve that I don't realise that there are just some unpleasant characters in the internet. Its not worth my energy or peace of mind to try to fence with these people.

YouTheCat Thu 10-Oct-13 13:40:48

I'm guessing their take on it would be it is a thread about other threads - but it's not. It's a thread about a current trend on MN which I think is perfectly valid to discuss.

Why delete the OP and not the whole thread? hmm

MrsDeVere Thu 10-Oct-13 13:38:29

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MrsDeVere Thu 10-Oct-13 13:37:46

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MrsDeVere Thu 10-Oct-13 13:35:45

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LittlePeaPod Thu 10-Oct-13 13:05:28

MrsDevere I have been periodically checking this thread and I am sad to read that others have called you a bully/nasty etc. well can I say, I have one across your posts on other threads and in no way have I found any of those comments to be in any way bullying. It's utter BS.. Ignore, ignore ignore....

I have been attacked on threads because my view may not agree with some MNers.

MH Why have you deleted the original post? Why did it break talk guidelines? I don't get it?

TheBigJessie Thu 10-Oct-13 12:48:26

Rachel? I mean Rebecca!

I think I got mixed up with My Cousin Rachel by the same author.

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