To think that £350 is an excessive amount to pay for yr6 school trip ?(142 Posts)
Ds1 is in yr 6. Going through his school bag I have just found details of their school trip at the end of summer term next year. Apparently they will stay in a chateau in northern France for 3 nights. Sounds great, lots of activities, visits etc but just don' t think we can afford it. They are asking for a deposit by 11 October and then
5 x £60 monthly payments after that, but then you have to factor in spending money and everything else so it's probably considerably more expensive. I do know that several kids didn't go on it last year and felt thoroughly left out before and after the event - seemingly lots of class time devoted to it in preparation. Nothing else is laid on for the unfortunate ones who can't go, just same old school routine.
Ok ,maybe it's our fault that we sent our kids to a school in a nice affluent area but what's wrong with a good old PGL holiday where they can try activities they've never done before. Just wondered if anyone had any advice, am in two minds to take kids out of school camping on the days the trips in progress. Sorry for the rant.
I think next year when hes in year 6 my son will be asked for about £350 for a weeks visit to some outdoor centre in wales. Im already dreading it as even though I work full time there is no spare cash each month . I think they should consult parents loads more in advance before they even plan trips like this ; 0 (
We live in an affluent area, our kids are going on a 5 day residential to a forest camp in Sussex... costing about the £300 for the 5 days. I guess when I factored in coach hire, subsiding teachers, accom, food and activities I thought it was an OK price - not a bargain, but almost reasonable. guess I was pleased it wasn't a week in the Bahamas or something completely over the top.
There are 2 students not going (each for their own reasons) and they will be stuck in with Year 5 for the week apparently. I feel sorry that they will miss all the fun, as well as the post trip reminiscences & in-jokes etc.
I agree £350 for only 3 days is too much. Our yr 6 was about £250 for 5 days with full on activities every day. Why do schools have to go overboard!!
YANBU. I resent it too. We also live in an affluent area and find that the price of school trips and the expectation that everyone can afford them is one of the downsides. The other being the expectation that mum is at home all day and available at the whim of the school to ferry DC around/ change plans at the drop of the hat.
Schools are not very good at looking outside at the bigger picture unfortunately. They get so excited and caught up in the fantastic school trip they are dreaming up for the DC (and there's little doubt that they'll really enjoy it) that they forget the cost comes out of family budgets that they might otherwise spend on the whole family. But I know they mean well and have the DC's interests at heart, which is what we want from them really.
In our case, DH had to go into the school and tell them that we just couldn't afford DD's Y6 trip as we were going through some financial issues at the time. They were very supportive and arranged a payment schedule. But the fact was that we resented being forced to go in and have that conversation with them. Schools are meant to educate, not be privvy to our financial problems because they've asked us to pay £355 for a trip (having paid £270 for a Y5 trip too).
Google "charging school activities" and read the DoE advice - there are actually really strict rules about what can be charged for (rather than requested as a voluntary contribution) if an activity takes place wholly or mainly in school time.
EnglishRose1320 - I think that is an excellent compromise.
Worry sigh- last school I worked at was very aware that issues like the ones you mentioned could put parents and children off but wanted to encourage children to feel confident enough to go- so staying at an adventure place that was only 20mins away meant that everyone could come and those that didn't want to or couldn't stay overnight just came each day instead.
I think we are lucky that teachers are prepared to organise and supervise trips that our children can get so much benefit from.
I don't think there's any need to offer trips abroad at primary school, it seems pointless when there are so many places in the UK that offer brilliant trips with a much smaller amount of travel time. But when they get to secondary, they provide a chance for children to go abroad even if their family couldn't afford a foreign trip for all of them.
What annoys me is that at our school, children on FSMs can get the trip for free or at a significantly reduced price, yet those of us on a similar income level get offered nothing. I think the pupil premium is divisive and is incredibly unfair on children from families who earn only fractionally more than FSM families. It is not the poorest children that miss out IME.
RavenAK - my comments about the different issues were not meant to say that children with those issues couldnt go on residential trips but might be perfectly legitimate reasons why a child or teen might not want to go on a trip but also might not want to share the reason with the school. We have experience of this as DD has IBD and finds that the bathroom facilities are just another stress she can do without.
OP I'm glad your son seems unfazed. Although you feel bad about him being unable to go, he may really not mind too much. I was unable to go on the week long residential school trip when I was in yr 6 as we couldn't afford it. Only 5 of us remained behind but I really was fine about it. I understood.
Seems expensive to me. My DD attends a private school and their Year 8 French exchange is costing £150 for 5 days. True, the accommodation costs are covered but I wouldn't expect them to be more than £100 if they were sleeping in a dorm or caravan anyway. Must be covering the accompanying teachers costs in that.
Our primary used to travel 300 miles to one of the best PGL sites, and then switched for DC3 to one about 40 miles away. The staff said facilities were enjoyed just as much and the shorter journey was much more preferable. DC3 enjoyed his year 6 residential just as much as DC1 and DC2.
And if your child doesn't have a passport already, that's another major expense.
I agree with you Scholes.
However, it's a lot easier to 'sell' a jaunt to France than a residential 10 miles up the road - & often not much of a price differential once you start looking at activity-based holidays.
It does seem utterly ridiculous. There's a limit to how much French they'll actually be exposed to on that kind of trip, and they'll spend a huge amount of time travelling.
Scholes has it spot on. I wouldn't drive for two days to have 3 days break. It's uneconomical in time alone
What is completely bonkers here is the fact that a school wants to take a coachload of primary schoolchildren from the north of England to France. The idea of a residential is for the kids to have fun together, and that can happen just as well ten miles up the road.
We have a yr 6 activity trip in the uk for 5 nights for £350.
It seems reasonably priced to me, over installments. & for those for whom it is an 'unimaginable' sum, there's usually financial help.
I'm struggling with the implication that because some dc may have bedwetting issues etc (eg my 7yo dd1), the whole thing should be written off.
I'd just have a quiet word with the teacher in charge & ensure dd1 has pull-ups in her bag - she doesn't wear them at home, where she has an accident a couple of times a month, but no big deal to pack them if she's away from home. NOT a reason for her not to enjoy a residential trip.
Some families may be able to save while for others this is an unimaginable amount of money.
But also dont forget the children for whom staying away from home might be a nightmare:
- the children with bedwetting or gastric problems such as IBD
- the children with sleep problems
- the children with health problems which need regular treatment
The children may have been able to keep these things private from their contemporaries in a normal school setting. A few days staying in a room with virtual strangers may well be more than they can cope with.
DD12s trip to France was £340 - that's 3 nights in the chateau plus two nights in a hotel, all food, entry to Euro Disney, entry to all places visited plus transport. I think that's amazing value, really. The school do try to fund places for people who really can't afford to go.
But it's still a lot of money and I totally get that - we have told DD2 that yes, we can afford it, but should our employment situation change we may not always be able to afford trips like this.
I think I will have to start saving. DS is in year 3 so if I put money aside it will not be much of a shock
My ds1 has just started year 1 of primary school. I've opened an extra savings account for school stuff as by sound of it, things will get expensive.
It is a sod of a lot of money for a household which struggles to make ends meet.
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