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to think that instead of insisting students who don't get C in maths and English continue it post 16, the Government should put a lot more resources into supporting them a lot earlier?

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kim147 Mon 02-Sep-13 10:38:36

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jlee1 Sat 30-Nov-13 12:13:14

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Rufus44 Sat 30-Nov-13 12:34:55

I think there should be two options for maths, one the full Monty GCSE and the other covering business maths

The business maths would be straightforward adding and subtracting but based around balancing budgets, maybe a bit of book keeping etc

Leaving algebra, phythagoras theory etc out of the exam. Those things are an absolute bugger and a lot of people never use them again

It's shouldn't be easier to pass as such but it should not deal with "pure" maths

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 30-Nov-13 12:46:36


I endured years of being told I was under confident with maths. No, I bloody well couldn't do it. I go a C but only because I had a tutor.

It wasn't until I worked in a money handling role after my GCSE's that I "got" it. I could now merrily do everyone's monthly budgets and accounts.

Maths is fetishised at schools in an odd way. It is all purely academic teaching things few will use in real life (Pythagoras theory anyone?) but no teaching children how to manage money. Ridiculous.

ForeverDarkrai Mon 02-Dec-13 16:58:35

I couldn't agree more with this!
I'm now at university in Loughborough but I used to tutor Maths to a couple of girls in Years 2 and 6 and they were both talented but they never had their brains stretched to reach their full potential.. I was told that they were struggling in class but it wasn't because of their ability, it was because they had been working at a much lower level than they should have been and, as a result, they fell behind because they got bored.
But then you have the other side of the table where students may not be as able but then do not get the attention they need.. My younger sister fitted into this boat. It's like some schools (not all!) just try to fit down the middle road when they should be catering for everyone's needs and abilities like they used to.

Hopeful646 Sun 08-Oct-17 12:10:42

Can I ask a quick question please, my understanding of maths GCSE resit is that if you get a grade 3 you can resit the GCSE at college but if you get below a grade 3 you would need to do functional skills Maths. Whilst I think this is a good idea for many students , how does it work with a student that sits the higher paper in year 11 and gets a U ?Surely they then don’t have to do functional skills maths at college without trying a foundation paper .
Does anyone have experience of this please ?

noblegiraffe Sun 08-Oct-17 12:15:35

If you get below a 3, you have the option of doing functional skills, but you can also do GCSE. If you get a 3, you have to resit GCSE.

A student who got a U on the higher paper due to poor tier of entry decisions by their school should absolutely be entered for GCSE for resits.

Hopeful646 Sun 08-Oct-17 12:31:09

Thank you , think I’ve posted this in two places by mistake smile

HolidayHelpPlease Sun 08-Oct-17 13:33:00

Lovely idea - but exams are marked on a bell curve. So the top 5% of students sitting an exam get an A*, the next 10% get an A - this is why it’s so frustrating that a C/5 is the benchmark when it’s literally impossible for all students to achieve it!

Brandnewstart Sun 08-Oct-17 20:26:56

I haven't read the whole thread but my teacher friend had the job of working 1-2-1 with pupils to get their grades up from Ds to Cs in English. It was a Labour government intiative and dropped when the stories got into power.

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