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If I order coffee with hot milk, aibu not to want

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PasswordProtected Sun 01-Sep-13 07:23:37

half a mug full of "foam"? That is lukewarm at best?
And was I being even more unreasonable to spoon the offending foam out of the mug and onto the saucer?

filee777 Sun 01-Sep-13 07:25:01

Ah you got a 'latte' YANBU as a coffee with milk (hot or otherwise) is not a latte.

purplewithred Sun 01-Sep-13 07:26:07

You mean you don't want a huge fattening mugful of warm milk with a hint of coffee taste and lots of froth? what kind of weirdo are you? (ps - the cool kids call this a latte. HTH)

I'm with you. Loathsome frothy nothingness.

Lweji Sun 01-Sep-13 07:26:45

Yanbu, but next time explain exactly what you want.

SomethingProfound Sun 01-Sep-13 07:32:27

YANBU but also that is NOT a latte at least not one made correctly. A latte should have a finger of foam no more, more than that and you have ventured into cappuccino territory. So you have clearly gone somewhere where the barista does not a) know what they are doing or b) doesn't give a shit!

If you want a coffee with hot milk flat white is the way to go.

PasswordProtected Sun 01-Sep-13 07:34:11

I explain every time what I want, just once I actually got it, so it can be done. I am in Germany, the terminology is somewhat different here, but I like Milchkaffee aka cafe au lait, no foam involved.

CSIJanner Sun 01-Sep-13 07:37:51

Then you should order an Americano with warm milk (used to work in a coffee house)

Tee2072 Sun 01-Sep-13 07:43:09

Yes, what you want is a cafe au lait, as you said.

I have almost never seen them on the menu here in the UK. They don't seem to have anyway to warm the milk other than their frothers.

Lweji Sun 01-Sep-13 07:44:08

Keep returning it until they get it right.

CreatureRetorts Sun 01-Sep-13 07:45:20

Americano with warm milk - that's what DH asks for!

He11y Sun 01-Sep-13 07:54:54

I ask them to top up the milk if there is too much froth. Some tutt at me but they all do it.

Interesting to see suggestions for other coffees though as this annoys me too.

PasswordProtected Sun 01-Sep-13 07:58:19

I doubt that they would understand what an Americano is, I don't! However, I will try again tomorrow morning.
I had a similar experience in Dublin earlier this year and ended up in a long discussion about the terminology for coffee with hot milk, we agreed on a flat white.
Frustratingly, if I drive 45 minutes down the road to France & order a cafe au lait, I get a) what I ordered and b) what I expect
I think it is the inconsistency that is annoying me.

Tee2072 Sun 01-Sep-13 08:10:11

An Americano is a shot of espresso topped up with hot water.

I would agree that what you want, if you can't get a Cafe Au Lait, is actually a flat white.

CMOTDibbler Sun 01-Sep-13 08:14:52

You'd get exactly as you like in the old lady inhabited cafe in my town - they come round to the table with insulated jugs of filter coffee and hot milk.

Could you not order a black coffee and a small jug/cup of hot milk if its an issue?

PresidentServalan Sun 01-Sep-13 08:15:01

If you order a 'wet latte' you should get little or no foam!

skinoncustard Sun 01-Sep-13 08:18:04

Ask for a wet latte/ cappuccino, can't stand a cup of froth, don't know how many 'discussions' I have had about frothy lattes. Latte is coffee made with milk - no froth at all. Yep had a few 'words' when asked to be topped up, coffee is what I paid , coffee is what I would like.

He11y Sun 01-Sep-13 08:21:39

I'm pretty sure you'd end up with a normal white coffee (ie with just a dash of milk) if you ordered cafe au lait in some places...

CerealMom Sun 01-Sep-13 08:22:40

I either ask for an Americano with hot milk 'on the side'. Or in less clued up places black coffee and a jug of hot milk.

GlaikitFizzog Sun 01-Sep-13 08:23:03

In the coffee shop I worked I as a teen you would get exact what you wanted. Complete with me dressed in a calf length kilt, blouse and frilly pinny. I only worked there for the "oops shelf". As in "oops I've just put my finger right through that chocolate cake. Can't serve that to the customers"

Pobblewhohasnotoes Sun 01-Sep-13 08:23:13

So a flat white is what you would make at home? I.e a plain old coffee but with a daft name?

I don't drink coffee so I'm needing help here.

PasswordProtected Sun 01-Sep-13 08:24:07

Hmm, well I was at breakfast in a 5* hotel near Frankfurt, where I have been a regular guest for the past 4 years. You used to get a thermos jug of coffee on the table and could then order a jug of hot milk, nowadays they clearly have a fancy machine with a limited number of options sad
If you go to one of the very good cafes in town (not a chain) you can still get excellent Milchkaffee.
I only drink one cup/mug of coffee per day, but I do need it to hit the spot. Still, after a foodie shopping trip tomorrow I will have mire coffee beans & be back in coffee-brewing paradise at Schloss PasswordProtected wink

PasswordProtected Sun 01-Sep-13 08:25:23

Oops, more not mire - although maybe I could start a new trend?

TravelinColour Sun 01-Sep-13 08:26:02

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

PasswordProtected Sun 01-Sep-13 09:37:08

TravelinColour I did ask for it ohne Schaum, I always ask for that! Still, at least nobody has criticised me for removing the Schaum onto the saucer. I should have taken a photo of it!

ILikeBirds Sun 01-Sep-13 09:43:14

"So a flat white is what you would make at home? I.e a plain old coffee but with a daft name?"


Flat white is espresso topped up with hot milk

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