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To think Katie Hopkins has officially lost the plot and special needs children do have genuine medical disorders

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Arnie123 Tue 20-Aug-13 15:08:12

I know she is just a gobby professional troll but this time she has gone way too far. So special needs don't exist and it is just crap parenting? Unbelievable

Naebother Tue 20-Aug-13 15:11:50

She is rentagob and spouts shite.
Why waste valuable moments of your life caring what she says?

Arnie123 Tue 20-Aug-13 15:14:38

I wonder if she regards narcissistic personality disorder as a real medical complaint as she appears to be suffering from it

mignonette Tue 20-Aug-13 15:17:57

Katie Hopkins needs to be Px some Vagisil because she is an irritating cunt. And that would be a most necessary medication.

ouryve Tue 20-Aug-13 15:19:03

YANBU. It takes less than 7 seconds to diagnose craniorectal inversion, though. Specially in really obvious cases, like hers.

redandblacks Tue 20-Aug-13 15:19:11

The most obnoxious woman ever ... still haven't got over of those pictures of her standing butt naked in a public place near work shagging someone's husband.

Justforlaughs Tue 20-Aug-13 15:21:41

Just to make it clear, that as a rule I disregard anything that Katie Hopkins says and would normally disagree with her on principle. Having said that, I think she makes valid points in her blog on this. No-where does she say that "special needs don't exist and it is just crap parenting", she suggests that " for some children a lack of exercise, poor diet and absence of parental control is also an issue". Note the important use of the word some. I would agree with this. In my experience there are children who have been diagnosed with undoubted ADHD and other conditions that affect the behaviour. On the other hand, there are children who have been diagnosed with various conditions, such as ADHD, when it is much less certain how much of the behaviour is down to bad parenting and red bull. (yes, it happens, despite what we would like to believe)

SaucyJack Tue 20-Aug-13 15:22:01

Don't make that a clickable link.

If her articles keep generating readership, then people wiill keep paying her to spout ignorant bile.

Just ignore.

redandblacks Tue 20-Aug-13 15:23:05

Btw, I am sure that there are a range of provisional diagnoses I could think of for her given that she feels so confident about doling them out

WorraLiberty Tue 20-Aug-13 15:23:20

I wonder if she regards narcissistic personality disorder as a real medical complaint as she appears to be suffering from it

And you're feeding her attention seeking, just as so many people on the internet do.

redandblacks Tue 20-Aug-13 15:24:09

Yes, I bet the children whom she speaks of are called Tyler and Chardonnay.

SamuelAndOscarsMummy Tue 20-Aug-13 15:26:52

I hate this woman but in a way I kind of agree with this. No way do I think that special needs do not exist at all or that any child who special needs has crap parents however I DO think people are sometimes too quick to shove a diagnosis of ADHD or mild autism on a child who isn't doing what he or she is supposed to do in terms of behaviour or development. Severe autism isn't too hard to diagnose and I don't think that is what Katie is referring to. It's not necessarily even down to bad or lazy parenting that a child doesn't behave, some are just more energetic and less able to concentrate than others, I always put it down to them being kids, diagnosing mild ADHD or mild autism and therefore sticking a label on the child could in my opinion do more harm than good. I do think we hear about it way more often nowadays, I remember reading an article in a magazine about autism a few years ago when it was barely heard of. I also think a lot more people will agree with this than who care to admit it due to fear of offending people or being non-PC.

SaucyJack Tue 20-Aug-13 15:30:12

By the way, "jokingly" labelling someone as having a mental health problem just because they've said something you don't like isn't particularly disability friendly either......

candycoatedwaterdrops Tue 20-Aug-13 15:30:40

mignonette grin

Mintyy Tue 20-Aug-13 15:32:28


We need to stop talking about her.

mignonette Tue 20-Aug-13 15:32:48

She should forever be referred to as 'Thrush' on MN until that irritating cunt is cured.

Tiredemma Tue 20-Aug-13 15:33:24

Move on now, nothing to see.

LRDPomogiMnyeSRabotoi Tue 20-Aug-13 15:34:35

Autism wasn't really 'barely heard of' a few years ago, though.

I'm reading a novel published in 1978 which mentions casually, in passing, someone's autistic child. Clearly at that time, it was quite well-known enough for a writer to judge that her audience would mostly know what the word meant and have a fair sense of what it implied for a child's needs.

I mention this because I think there is quite a lot of mythologising about how recently we've known about certain diagnoses.

KH is a total twit and a troll, but I think it's worrying how much people think labels are inherently bad. I don't think they are, and I think although we've got a lot better at giving children proper help when they need it, there really hasn't been a massive explosion in diagnosing disorders in children who don't have them. IMO.

thornrose Tue 20-Aug-13 15:34:46

Samuel - however I DO think people are sometimes too quick to shove a diagnosis of ADHD or mild autism....

Who are the people you are referring to? Do you mean the Psychiatrists and health care professionals who make the diagnosis?

redandblacks Tue 20-Aug-13 15:35:22

Could MN have her in for a webchat ... she would be too cowardly to put herself forward. If you are reading this thread, Hopkins, I dare you to volunteer yourself and prove you have some substance or credibility that is not reliant upon putting down fat/disabled/poor/working class people.

LRDPomogiMnyeSRabotoi Tue 20-Aug-13 15:36:01

My understanding was it takes fucking ages to get a diagnosis of anything much these days, too.

I know that's not quite what you mean by 'quick', but still.

thornrose Tue 20-Aug-13 15:37:36

Oh no, sorry, I need to walk away, this is not how I want to spend my afternoon. Don't bother answering that.

Arnie123 Tue 20-Aug-13 15:39:28

Hopkins loathes Mumsnet and uses every opportunity to slag us off. Would love a web chat please mnhq get on to it!

LRDPomogiMnyeSRabotoi Tue 20-Aug-13 15:40:52

Oh, no, I'm really sorry - I didn't mean you!

I only meant, it's a bit sad when people talk as if diagnoses can be got quickly, because of course people can struggle on for a long time without a diagnosis.

I really wasn't having a go in the least.

LadyBryan Tue 20-Aug-13 15:40:55

She is just dull.

Imagine being so insecure that she has to spout such utter tosh to feel good about herself.

Do run along Katie, there's a dear

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