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AIBU in thinking employers should be able to refuse to employ smokers?

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TiggyD Mon 05-Aug-13 22:17:35

1. You should judge aplicants on their decisions. Yes. They chose to smoke which means they're likely to die earlier, smell, be ill etc. They have made a really bad decision: To smoke.

2. If they say they regret their decision but can't give up they're addicts. I would tend to avoid giving known drug addicts or alcoholics a job, and the same goes for tobacco addicts.

sonlypuppyfat Mon 05-Aug-13 22:18:49

I loath and detest smoking but thats a bit strong OP

TallyGrenshall Mon 05-Aug-13 22:18:53


whois Mon 05-Aug-13 22:19:33

Well... It's not illegal yet so YABU at the moment.

Although I agree with you to some extent.

ClaraOswald Mon 05-Aug-13 22:19:42

Are you trying to stir things up?

soontobeburns Mon 05-Aug-13 22:20:32


Plonkysaurus Mon 05-Aug-13 22:20:37

Joke, right?

<lights fag, passes popcorn>

IncrediblePhatTheInnkeepersCat Mon 05-Aug-13 22:21:01

Have my very first MN biscuit

thisisyesterday Mon 05-Aug-13 22:21:05


ModreB Mon 05-Aug-13 22:21:25

I would like to reply in the manner that I wish. But I am too polite. And a non-smoker.


SkinnybitchWannabe Mon 05-Aug-13 22:21:48

Another unoriginal thread. Learn to spell ffs

iliketea Mon 05-Aug-13 22:22:12

YABU unless you would have some way of assessing every potential employee's bad decisions.

Not exercising enough?
Not eating a healthy diet?
The list could be endless.

LarryMcNue Mon 05-Aug-13 22:22:13

And fat people too right?

Sirzy Mon 05-Aug-13 22:22:16

You could go on forever -

If someone likes a drink would you stop them?

If they drive a car they be injured in a crash and not able to work

Overweight people - more likely to have a heart attack and need time off best not employ them!

Women - well they might have the audacity to want children and expect maternity leave!

Wallison Mon 05-Aug-13 22:22:18

[blows smoke in OP's face]

notallytuts Mon 05-Aug-13 22:22:52

they can, and some do

spicywalrus Mon 05-Aug-13 22:23:10


TiggyD Mon 05-Aug-13 22:23:30

No it's not illegal. Alcohol isn't illegal either. If I told my boss I need a 5 minute break a couple of times a day for a quick Snakebite, what would she say?

whois Mon 05-Aug-13 22:23:59

And fat people too right?

Yeah, obvs.

squoosh Mon 05-Aug-13 22:24:12

I'd take up smoking again just so I could then blow smoke in your face and stub my cigarette out on your sitting room floor.

tethersend Mon 05-Aug-13 22:24:21

What if you took up smoking?

What if you gave up?

What if you smoked in secret or only away from work?

Would you not employ anyone who drank?

Sirzy Mon 05-Aug-13 22:24:43

Ye coz getting pissed at work is comparable to having a cigarette at your break isn't it!

ImagineJL Mon 05-Aug-13 22:24:46


tethersend Mon 05-Aug-13 22:25:09

So it's ok to smoke just not during the working day?

Plenty of places stipulate this already.

sonlypuppyfat Mon 05-Aug-13 22:25:18

TiggyD its just like you are looking for a row, why

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