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chubbymomie2012 Tue 30-Jul-13 07:23:41

I have a beauty therapist who comes to my house to do waxing nails etc ( because i have 4 kids, saves me taking then all with me) she has only been coming a few months but last month she requested me as a friend on facebook so I accepted, she seemed nice enough.

Last night I was havng a flick through it when I saw a post she had on. It was a Photo of 4 Coke bottles. 3 bottles had girls names on them including Aoibhe and orlaith. Obvious Irish names. the fourth had the word Fenians on it. her comment was "Ha Ha True!"

AIBU to be insulted and to think even if she holds these bigoted outdated opinions, she is in a profession where she shouldnt be broadcasting them, and AIBU not to have her near my house again!

WipsGlitter Tue 30-Jul-13 07:45:25

I'm assuming you're assuming she's Protestant?

RussiansOnTheSpree Tue 30-Jul-13 07:45:44

Claig - you're wrong.

WipsGlitter Tue 30-Jul-13 07:46:06

I am an Irish catholic!!

Takes a lot to offend me through...

Happypiglet Tue 30-Jul-13 07:46:15

Why did you friend her? She is not your friend she is your beauty therapist....I personlly have no idea of my hairdressers views on Catholics and don't need/ want to know....either way she does a great hair cut.
Unfriend her and go back to your purely professional relationship....or find a new therapist...

chubbymomie2012 Tue 30-Jul-13 07:48:23

bamboo, i am offended that still in this day and age when we are pushing for peace and unity that idiots like this still broadcast bigoted views and hatred because believe me thats what this is!

The best of it is this wee doll isnt even old enough to have experienced the crap that went on here! She is as someone said previously, trying to appear cool anmong her peers!

Im offended for all her other Catholic clients who she ckearly feels are beneath her yet is happy to take our money!

pissed off to the Max!!!!

SJisontheway Tue 30-Jul-13 07:49:07

Yanbu. That's offensive.

bamboostalks Tue 30-Jul-13 07:49:14

Are you in Northern Ireland?

MrsWolowitz Tue 30-Jul-13 07:49:49

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

WandaDoff Tue 30-Jul-13 07:50:45

I'm a fenian bastard, apparently.

I never reaslised that until I moved to Glasgow.
I mean you get bigots everywhere, but that one was new to me the first time I heard it.

chubbymomie2012 Tue 30-Jul-13 07:51:10

Mrs Wolowitz thats exactly the case

Bamboo yes I am

Roshbegosh Tue 30-Jul-13 07:52:24

I wouldn't say it is linked to the past, I visited Belfast recently and all that shit is still very much alive and kicking. I would interpret the picture as some kind of anti-English comment, joking that they are Fenians, definitely Irish catholic names there.

wigglesrock Tue 30-Jul-13 07:53:25

It's a pejorative term where I live (Belfast) I've never been called a Fenian in a nice way smile .

Just defriend her if it bothers you, some people I'm FB friends with have shockingly narrow views on a wide number of subjects - I do a cull, they're the first out.

claig Tue 30-Jul-13 07:53:34

"Claig - you're wrong."

OK, thanks. I've just looked up "Sinn Fein" and it means "We ourselves".

It also seems that Fenian derives from Fianna

"The name Fenian was first applied by John O'Mahony to the members of the Irish republican group that he founded in the United States in 1848.[1] O'Mahony, who was a Celtic scholar, named the American wing of the movement after the Fianna.[2][3][4][5] In Gaelic Ireland these were warrior bands of young men who lived apart from society and could be called upon in times of war."

JamieandtheMagicTorch Tue 30-Jul-13 07:59:31


read the Urban Dictionary definition. It's clear what the origins are but people are telling you that it's derogatory

wigglesrock Tue 30-Jul-13 07:59:44

Oh, is it an injoke? Are they her kids names and is she making a point? I'm not sure if she's using Fenian to describe names of family or to describe other people, if you see what I mean.

I know people who use words to describe themselves like Taig etc - sort of a reclaiming. I suppose a bit like women using bitch or cunt affectionately.

Fakebook Tue 30-Jul-13 08:00:12

After your subsequent posts I think yanbu. But you say she's young, so perhaps you can pull her up on it next time you see her? I would.

RedHelenB Tue 30-Jul-13 08:00:54

Maybe you could explain to her why it is so derogatory - as others have suggested, it is unlikely that she understands the full implications of her comment!

RussiansOnTheSpree Tue 30-Jul-13 08:01:09

You are wrong when you say it isn't an insult today. It is. Most of the people who use it (especially in Scotland) have no idea of the historic political connotations of the term. It's usually used in conjunction with the word 'bastard' and some death threats. sad It's a very loaded term these days.

chubbymomie2012 Tue 30-Jul-13 08:03:38

wiggles. shes only early 20's has no children and lives in a very "protestant" estate which has been on the news recently for their rioting. I have good friends from this estate who do not hold these views so I am not in anyway saying she obviously has to have them but, id say this was meant in a "kick the pope" fashion as the locals say.

NeoMaxiZoomDweebie Tue 30-Jul-13 08:05:42

OP do you live in Ireland? If so then why on earth are people suggesting you explain it to the hairdresser....anyone knows it's derogatory if they're Irish.

People who don't understand it, RussiansOnThe Spree puts it well when she says it is a very loaded term indeed.

claig Tue 30-Jul-13 08:06:03

I think wigglesrock may be right about this

NeoMaxiZoomDweebie Tue 30-Jul-13 08:07:45

Ah I see....well Chubby ignorance is no excuse....I would unfriend her and tell her why you won't be using her again. That will be a valuable lesson and she won't be so stupid or unprofessional again.

Eyesunderarock Tue 30-Jul-13 08:07:57

I think you have to be a part of the sectarianism and prejudice that is still ongoing in many areas to understand why it's an insult.
For those not involved, it's a historical description of a political movement, but I'd only ever use it in that context.

YoureAllABunchOfBastards Tue 30-Jul-13 08:07:59

I am nowhere near Northern Ireland but I would read Fenian as an insult.

Unless it is one of these bizarre 'celebratory' things - 'ooh, look at us, we're all Fenians'? Unlikely though if she is not Catholic.

WandaDoff Tue 30-Jul-13 08:08:51

RussiansOnThe Spree has it ^^

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