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To not care how 'friendly' your dog is, if you can't control it, it should be on a lead

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IcouldstillbeJoseph Thu 18-Jul-13 03:20:54

I'm neither a lover or hater of dogs but this is beginning to piss me right off rankle.

Near to where I live is a lovely lake. Nice path, children's play area, ducks etc. Popular in this weather.

I was out walking today with DS 2.6 and DD 6mo. As has happened on so many occasions now, we'll be stood feeding the ducks, only to have somebody's dog come bounding along to us, no owner in sight (the path is quite bendy) and start sniffing about. Now, obviously the sniffing I don't mind so much but DS is a bit wary of dogs and today one started trying to lick his face and was licking at DD's feet in the buggy. The owner then saunters around the corner, calling dog's name (to which it pays no attention) and then looks endearingly at the dog and at DS's worried expression and says "oh don't worry she just wants to give you kisses". No attempt to get control of the dog at all.

I gave tight-lipped half smile and turned away resisting urge to wipe DD feet with an anti-bac wipe

DiseasesOfTheSheep Sat 20-Jul-13 20:41:22

All dogs should be given some time off lead

Yes, but a greyhound will need less time and space off lead than, for example, a collie, since the former tend to tire rapidly during exercise, while collies are bred to work all day. Similarly, a pug will be capable of less exercise than a JRT, due to its physiological deformities features. There are more appropriate breeds if you have limited access to open spaces.

I didn't notice anyone posting that their only place to exercise their mutt loose is a child's play park or a road, but it's a long thread. I can't guarentee I didn't miss it!

BlueSkySunnyDay Sat 20-Jul-13 20:51:04

I have a collie I would never choose to take her to a child's play park as to be honest excited children would overwhelm her a bit. I'm guessing the people with the biggest issue with this are going to be town dwellers where the choice of place to exercise a dog is more limited.

I'd never do it but loads of people take their dogs on the school run and tie them up on the gate and I'm amazed by how many children never seem to have been taught not to run up to and stroke a dog they do not know.

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 20-Jul-13 21:16:35


I totally see where you are coming from and I'm a dog owner. On another thread somebody said they can't understand why parks are divided into dog walking/no dog areas. I think that is a great idea personally.

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 20-Jul-13 21:16:52

*aren't not are blush

DiseasesOfTheSheep Sat 20-Jul-13 21:25:24

Bluesky I also have a collie and wouldn't be seen dead with him at a children's play park. He'd probably love it (christ he'd be a total slide hog!) but I just don't see the attraction grin Give us an open field any day!

LtEveDallas Sat 20-Jul-13 21:33:27

Woods for us. MuttDog loves nothing better than sniffing and searching. Although the day the Muntjac came piling out of the bushes was one she'd rather forget.

The funniest thing I ever saw was a (wonderfully trained and friendly) collie 'rounding up' all the children at a families Barbeque. Dog was in its element and the kids thought it was hilarious grin

HorryIsUpduffed Sat 20-Jul-13 21:40:45

grin LtEve Border collies will herd anything. Makes them challenging to walk in my (limited) experience.

I once walked one off lead on a road that typically had no walkers or traffic in 24h, past fields I thought were empty. But the neighbour had moved his hoggs... She smelt them and legged it. She herded about a hundred sheep all the way round the field twice, gave them a quick look over, realised two or three had been hiding, and herded those few round the field too, for good measure. I was dying of shame, and very glad nobody was around, as she was by now too far away to hear me shout, and I stupidly hadn't brought her whistle. She eventually calmly trotted back to me grinning, and gave me a look as if to say "Right, that's that done, off we go."

LtEveDallas Sat 20-Jul-13 21:42:39

grin that's a great story. I bet she was quite pleased with herself!

DiseasesOfTheSheep Sat 20-Jul-13 21:44:48

Yep, mine's been used to herd many unusual species, in various unusual circumstances. Not sure I'd want to risk herding children after this thread though shock Mind you, I'd probably get arrested for some sort of child snatching anyway!

Woods are nice, dallas but we don't have many round here. I have wood-envy... Open fields also work nicely for distance hand signal training.

HorryIsUpduffed Sat 20-Jul-13 21:47:02

She was totally delighted. She had only recently been retired so I think she missed it just a smidge.

Miss her sad She got old and deaf and diabetic so eventually had to be PTS.

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 20-Jul-13 21:48:16

I have a collie story! They are fab dogs!

We were walking across open fields in Llantrisant with tindog. Sheep graze on these fields. My dp,myself and the dog got a bit stuck (and lost) due to a criss crossing stream. Out of nowhere a collie appeared (totally alone) and led us the 15 minutes back to the main path. It was only when the collie was content we were back where we should be he accepted the treat my dp had been trying to give him the entire him.

I was amazed and most grateful!

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 20-Jul-13 21:48:53

*entire time even <ahem>

DiseasesOfTheSheep Sat 20-Jul-13 21:49:58

I like the stealth herding, Horry!

Alis, that's mental. Are you sure that wasn't an episode of Lassie?! grin

GrimmaTheNome Sat 20-Jul-13 21:50:40

My uncle had a collie which liked to herd people - so if walking the group had to stay fairly tight. She was sorely perplexed how to manage us when we went out in two rowing boats!

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 20-Jul-13 21:55:15

It so does sound like Lassie! This was definitely a Welsh collie though (blue eyes,black and white)

Honest to god it happened! I was 100% sober at the time too!

Spent about 3 days afterwards telling everybody I met about it, I was that stunned it had happened! smile

GrimmaTheNome Sat 20-Jul-13 21:57:42

>And I know it's her own house so the dog has every right to do as it pleases so I can't complain

er. no - I usually believe in 'my house my rules' but I'd have been mortified if I'd let my dog lick someone else's baby (or child for that matter). She shouldn't have let it happen in the first place, and when it did should have apologised straight off.

DiseasesOfTheSheep Sat 20-Jul-13 21:57:47

It's a brilliant story - I love it. Thanks for sharing smile

HorryIsUpduffed Sat 20-Jul-13 22:02:30

Alis I love that! Having a little sob at lovely doggies...

kungfupannda Sat 20-Jul-13 22:27:30


A manager at the firm I trained at was terrified of dogs after being badly bitten a few years earlier. She also couldn't ride a bike. She decided to get fitter and learned to cycle. The first time she tried to cycle to work, as she went through the park (on a legitimate cycle path) a large dog went bounding up to her and started jumping up at her. She screamed and started wobbling around, as the owners (an oldish couple) shouted "don't worry, he just wants to play."

Predictably enough, she fell off the bike and broke her shoulder. The owners then told her that if she hadn't been screaming, it wouldn't have happened, before walking off and leaving her on the ground. Someone from one of the cafes in the park had to get help for her.

I couldn't actually stand her. She was a terrible bully and several people left the firm because of her. But I had enormous sympathy for her that day and would have liked a chance to tell the owners exactly what I thought of them.

oldandcrabby Sat 20-Jul-13 23:41:57

To counter the negativity, have you considered what you are passing on to your children? I have two dogs and am constantly surprised at the reaction by parents when I pass them with my two dogs, on lead, bumbling along paying no attention to them or their DCs. Now if they were squealing and flapping their hands in the air, the dogs might be interested wink.
My dogs are both PAT dogs and have done phobic work. This works if both the child and parent are committed. We reinforce the playing statues, turning one's back and being boring. Don't flap your arms, squeal and run, unless you want the dog to play with you. Phobic work is quite hard on the dog, they are in a confined, strange place with people who are antagonistic.
Those of you who want to ban dogs from the planet, have you considered the role they play as working or assistance dogs? There is considerable interest in pairing children on the autistic spectrum with companion dogs with great results. I am a widow and my dogs keep me sane and get me out whatever the weather. Very early mornings or late evening at the moment grin. Dogs are great companions.

saintlyjimjams Sun 21-Jul-13 08:00:20

Yes that's true oldandcrabby. My severely autistic son is not dog crazy (it's no unusual to find children on the spectrum to be dog obsessed). He used to be wary of dogs because he doesn't like fur. But he loves our retriever. Likes giving him treats, likes taking him for walks - he's been a big bonus for a boy whose world is forced to be relatively narrow because of his disability.

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