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To think this calls for a celebration!? - Same-sex marriage to become law by next week!

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ANormalOne Tue 16-Jul-13 21:54:59


I'm actually crying I'm so happy right now!

This calls for a large class of wine to celebrate!

stickingattwo Fri 19-Jul-13 15:53:36

The thing is Oreo - it IS Adam and Steve, sometimes. AND Adam and Eve. AND George and Sally. AND Sarah and Lucy. AND... get my drift??

BIWI Fri 19-Jul-13 21:54:19

We should have a Mumsnet Massive Wedding Party!

oreocookiez Fri 19-Jul-13 22:08:54

Just because I dont agree with same sex marriage you all become sanctimonious. Another reason Britain is great is because we have freedom of speech. I do have personal reasons why I don't agree with same sex relationships, my experiences have shaped my thoughts and feelings on the subject. Im not homophobic, and if you knew me you would understand why.

HorryIsUpduffed Fri 19-Jul-13 22:34:53

You strongly hold an opinion you aren't prepared to justify objectively. That doesn't go down well.

"I'm not homophobic, I just don't like teh gayz". OK then.

BIWI Fri 19-Jul-13 22:39:57

Then please explain why, oreocookiez.

Yes, we have freedom of speech. We also have laws of the land. And gay marriage is now legal.

You, however, even disagree with same sex relationships. Yet you say you aren't homophobic? How does that work?

We don't know you - very obviously - so perhaps you could explain a bit more for us?

FourGates Fri 19-Jul-13 22:55:24

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BIWI Fri 19-Jul-13 22:58:51

I should declare my own interest here, too. My DS1 is gay. And it makes me feel very, very happy as his parent to know that if he should be lucky enough to find someone that he loves, that he can marry them.

Lj8893 Fri 19-Jul-13 23:14:14

I'm sorry oreo but using the term "turns my stomach" when talking about same sex relationships is homophobic.

Yes you are entitled to free speech, but so is everyone else and unfortunately for you when you spout homophobic language, you are going to get a lot of free speech back at you.

oreocookiez Fri 19-Jul-13 23:50:26

I respect your opinions, I have mine. Yes, I dont agree with same sex relationships - it is something that caused me and my siblings years of misery. I definitely dont agree with same sex couples bringing up children together. People will say how great it is and how happy they are for you to your face; perhaps what is said behind your back is another matter though.unfortunately some parents dont want to see the consequences of their actions and the unseen and longlasting damage it has on a child. Even in our supposed liberal society, it is not accepted as the norm.

Devora Fri 19-Jul-13 23:50:46

Rebel and Hermione, you know you'll have to post wedding photos on your profiles now!

Congratulations flowers

BIWI Fri 19-Jul-13 23:53:25

But could you possibly explain why oreocookiez?

And, as the mother of a gay son, I would be really interested if you could explain why the concept of him marrying another man would be such a horrible thing, if it would make him very happy.

Devora Fri 19-Jul-13 23:55:32

oreo, I don't know what your experience is. I won't diss it. But as the lesbian mother of two happy children, who lives in a tolerant and welcoming community, I think my experience is valid too. When I was a kid people used to disapprove of interracial relationships. They used to say they weren't racist, but it was "unfair to the children - they don't belong anywhere".

Nobody now seriously thinks that black and white people shouldn't marry each other to protect their children from prejudice. We know that it is more effective by far to tackle the original prejudice than avoid it by not allowing people to exist. Well, the same goes for children of same sex relationships.

Lj8893 Sat 20-Jul-13 00:01:25

I really am baffled why anybody would not agree with people being happy? So are homosexuals meant to be celibate, or have a relationship with someone of the opposite sex and live a lie? And why shouldn't they be able to have and raise a child just because they happen to be attracted to the same sex?

I really don't get it!

MeerkatMerkin Sat 20-Jul-13 01:18:58

I am the daughter of a gay dad. My experiences have shaped my opinions.

oreo if you are insinuating that you were brought up within a same sex parentage and had an unhappy upbringing then I'm sorry. I'm sorry you had a hard time.

But it isn't because your parents were gay. A lot of children of straight couples have a horrible time too.

I hope one day you can release your demons, stop seeing a tortured childhood as exclusive to the offspring of homosexual people and learn some tolerance. If you don't, you may find life l

MeerkatMerkin Sat 20-Jul-13 01:19:54

Oops, posted too soon.

oreo, if you don't, you may find life difficult as your peers will have different opinions, and this could affect your future relati

MeerkatMerkin Sat 20-Jul-13 01:20:54

FAT FINGERS!!!!! hmm

It could affect your future relationships.

And that is all I have to say on the matter!

kotinka Sat 20-Jul-13 01:22:29

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PresidentServalan Sat 20-Jul-13 01:41:40

As I dont actually drink, can I still offer a round of wine to those of you who are celebrating this awesome step for equality! And to those of you who can now get married, flowers!!!!

ems1910 Sat 20-Jul-13 01:55:09

Woohoo finally! smile

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