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To say DS1 (6yrs) & DS2 (4yrs) can't see Man of Steel?

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ttalloo Fri 21-Jun-13 07:16:28

DH really wants to take the boys to see Man of Steel, saying that it might be a 12A, but as they've already seen all 6 Star Wars films, all of Lord of the Rings, and the Hobbit, not to mention countless other crashbangwallop films, it shouldn't be too scary or difficult for them.

I take his point (they are a fairly bloodthirsty pair), but I'm still not comfortable with them seeing it - that 12A rating suggests to me that it's not a film for children as young as ours.

If you've seen it, please give me the benefit of your advice!

Whatsthatnoise Sat 22-Jun-13 21:16:56

I agree Henry Cavill is the only reason to watch Man of steel grin My dd(4) has seen the first 2 Harry Potter movies, I let her watch the Goonies but she asked me to switch it off.

Yesterday she came to me in the kitchen sobbing because Nemo's mummy got eaten by a big fish, she must have watched that movie 30000 times.

The problem is that 4 year olds are unpredictable and even if they are scared they don't always tell you at the time.

fuzzpig Fri 21-Jun-13 21:56:08

Despicable Me 2 is brilliant. grin ba ba ba ba banana

Seeing epic tomorrow with DD's friend (in lieu of birthday party) - bit disappointed to have missed it in 3D though.

theoriginalandbestrookie Fri 21-Jun-13 21:33:39

I saw Epic with DS last week - it was waaay better than Man of Steel, but the best bit was the trailer for Despicable Me 2, it looks awesome !

ttalloo Fri 21-Jun-13 20:44:20

Have just booked tickets for Despicable Me 2 for tomorrow afternoon. That should make up for the trauma of not seeing Man of Steel.

(Agree, monicalewinski that this Superman doesn't seem as cartoonish as the Christopher Reeve films; actually, why didn't I think of that before? I can get them Superman 1 & 2 on DVD!)

farewellfigure Fri 21-Jun-13 20:26:40

Roll on Despicable Me 2. Can't wait.

monicalewinski Fri 21-Jun-13 20:23:52

Blah to all the "OMG, you let your child watch STARWARS?!", my 2 boys were the same, they love all that stuff. To be honest I would wait til the dvd comes out for this one though - not inappropriate IMO but very long and not superman in the Christopher Reeve sense (much more intensely broody). Henry Cavill is hugely dreamy though so I sat through it quite easily!!

ttalloo Fri 21-Jun-13 20:14:47

OP here. Thanks a lot for all your responses.

I'm really surprised that some posters think that the original Star Wars trilogy is too scary for 4 and 6 year olds. Having watched them a loop for the last few months, I find them funny, moral and exciting, with just enough danger and suspense for the boys to be on the edge of their seats, but not to be terrified. I think the prequels are more frightening, and I wish the boys wouldn't watch them, but more because they are utterly rubbish films.

So, to clarify my calling my boys a fairly bloodthirsty pair - they love fighting with swords and guns (and this despite my being one of those po-faced mums that swore her little princes would never own so much as a water pistol), they love watching shows like Spiderman, Redakai and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles on CITV, which are full of fighting, not to mention Tom & Jerry, and they are pretty unfazed by all the films we've let them watch (which, now I come to think of it also include the first two Harry Potters, but I won't let them watch the others, any more than I'd read them the books, because I think they are too dark).

But they do know that hurting is wrong, that what they watch on screen is not real, and that replicating that kind of behaviour in real life is unacceptable, not to mention well nigh on impossible in many cases given that they don't have access to Acme explosives, superpowers or Pokemons.

Which is why DH wants to take them to see Man of Steel. Why I don't want to take them is because the 12A rating makes me uncomfortable, and also because watching a film like that in a darkened room, with surround sound at full blast, will be far more intense an experience, than doing so in our sitting room on a Saturday afternoon when the DVD arrives from LoveFilm.

My sense from reading the posts from those who have seen Man of Steel is that it probably will be overwhelming and boring, so it's not worth taking the boys to see it, and we'll see Despicable Me 2 next weekend instead. Which is a shame for me, too, because I was looking forward to seeing lots of Henry Cavill. smile

farewellfigure Fri 21-Jun-13 19:31:49

A lot of children do not know it's wrong to hit. They see goodies hitting, annihilating and being downright mean to baddies. They learn that it's OK to hurt baddies. They can definitely be desensitised because science has proven that. Yes watching horror films and playing adult shoot-em-ups is different from watching The Hulk etc but I just cannot understand why a parent would think it was a good idea to let their 5yr watch someone beating seven shades of sh** out of another person. Not cartoon violence, but proper grown men fighting.

And yes children are all different and some can understand fact from fiction a lot earlier than others, but the average age is 7. That is quoted a lot in scientific papers.

Scariness is another thing all together and yes, what scares one child won't even make another flinch. Violence however is always a bad thing and I don't personally believe a very young child should watch it. It's the parents choice whether to let their 5,6,7 yr old watch these films. The child can't get the DVD and put it on, nor buy themselves a cinema ticket, so why expose them to it? Just let them watch Toy Story!

LittleBearPad Fri 21-Jun-13 19:03:56

Star Wars (Episodes 4,5 and 6) aren't scary. The Empire Strikes Back is darker but not scary so I'm shock that a 12 year old hasn't seen them if they wanted to. The other three are crap so irrelevant. I would say Harry Potter and Voldemort, the dementors etc are scarier on film than anything in Star Wars and LOTR is definitely more frightening.

ParadiseChick Fri 21-Jun-13 18:51:25


A 12 year old has not been allowed to watch Star Wars - the ones rated U? Seriously?

teenagetantrums Fri 21-Jun-13 18:12:43

my Ds saw the first lord of the rings film at the cinema and he was about 8 he loved it, its up to you, kids 12A means you as the adult decide , I cant understand all this drama about films and games I have been taking my 16 year old to see 18 plus films since she was 14 if she wanted to go, she knowns its not real.

pointythings Fri 21-Jun-13 18:03:20

I wouldn't have let my DDs watch it at that age, but they are sensitive - very clear on the line between fact and fiction but violence frightens them (as it should).

They are 10 and 12 now and I am just about thinking about letting them see the original Star Wars trilogy. I will let them watch LOTR when DD10 has finished reading the book. (This is not a stealth boast btw, she insisted after DD1 read it. Fortunately it's her evening reading book so should last her about 5 months...)

Nicknamegrief Fri 21-Jun-13 17:56:27

I think you lost the argument by letting them watch other 12s, sorry.

ParadiseChick Fri 21-Jun-13 17:55:06

I totally agree adeucallone. I also think this is an area where the fact children are little people is overlooked. People, big or little, react differently to different films. My dh laughed all the way through The Birds, I eyed crows suspiciously for weeks after. I love Carrie, dh cannot watch it, my mother actually threw the book in the bucket when she finished reading it. I Am Legend really spooked me for some reason, I can't watch it again but dh loves it.

as has been mentioned we aren't talking about showing 4 year olds Chucky are we?

TheFallenNinja Fri 21-Jun-13 17:48:16

So DH says yes and you say no. How will that pan out?

adeucalione Fri 21-Jun-13 17:40:03

I feel that the key thing is that the film certificate allows parents to make their own judgement call - so a 12a means that anyone younger than 12 must be accompanied by an adult, but it is up to that adult to decide whether their 9,7 or 5 year old is likely to cope with the movie.

Reeling in horror because a parent allows her 5yo to watch Star Wars is nothing short of ridiculous - some will be scared and some will not, and one would hope that the parents knows their child best.

My DC all enjoyed the Star Wars movies, cuddled up on the sofa with me, and are healthy well adjusted teenagers now.

I would reserve the comments about desensitization to violence for those parents who allow their children to watch 18 cert movies, play adult computer games, watch tv in their rooms until midnight, have unsupervised access to the internet and so on.

MuddlingMackem Fri 21-Jun-13 17:33:16

I would say that it would be a bad idea to take children of that age to the cinema if you have a choice. If your DH can afford to go twice then it would be better for him to go first so that he can make an informed decision on whether or not it's suitable, or he sees it at the cinema and the children wait for the DVD.

I've just checked with my 6 year old DD. We took our children DS9 and DD6 to see it. We would have taken DS anyway, but we only took DD as well because we were given free tickets for the opening night as part of a group of 10 people. Otherwise DH would have gone first himself and vetted it. DS was fine, loved it, but DD found some bits scary and says she doesn't want to watch the DVD until she's a bit older.

We also took them to see the first Hobbit film. It was for DS's birthday in lieu of any kind of party or something with his friends. We never even thought to check the certificate beforehand as it was from a children's book. DD found a couple of parts of that very scary.

Admittedly, DD does find a lot of things scary that DS at the same age was totally blasé about, but I would be very wary of taking a 4 year old to Man of Steel.

LittleBearPad Fri 21-Jun-13 17:31:31

Ooh the wicked witch of the west in the wizard of oz. She and her flying monkeys scared me for years when I was young.

Oblomov Fri 21-Jun-13 17:10:11

I disagree with most of farewell figure's views.

I find it hard to beleive that any child hits another child and then claims that its because a cartoon character does it. And if they did, it would just be a very lame excuse. Becuase 4 yr olds and younger and older, know not to hit. They know.They know right and wrong.

And I do think 7 years olds can and should know the difference between fact and fiction. I have already said that my ds's do. So that crushes that arguemnt.

Empathy, is expected at 6. The recommended age is 6. Empathy, to know not to say what we mean, or comemnt that the lady is fat, even though she is, because we recognise at 6, how it would feel to us. Its funny when a 2 yr old says , rude things. But not expexted at 6.
Likewise 3 yr olds, may not differentiate between fact and fiction. But if the 6 ties in to empathy. then a 7 year old certianly should have got it.

I totally disagree on it being desensitising.
Many children get scared. of tv, films. My children are scared of nothing. Many children are scared. But remember, plenty are not. Some toddlers and scared of climbing. some are fearless. Why. Just thier personalities.

I was a fearless child . My children are too. I am not desensitised. I can watch "the Fall" and everyone on the thread was scared. But I was not. I did not flinch.

I disagree with alot of what has been said on this thread.

fuzzpig Fri 21-Jun-13 15:04:25

YANBU, they are too young for 12A IMO. I would have thought 12A means maybe 9 or 10yo (my eldest is 6 though so not been an issue yet)

ProbablyJustGas Fri 21-Jun-13 15:01:15

I've seen Man of Steel. Agree with the PPs who said your kids will probably be bored through it. It takes foreeeeever to get the Superman part, and then when it does, it's just fight after fight after fight after fight. It's really loud in the theaters too!

My 7 yo DSD has watched all of the Star Wars films with us. Which was fine, because we could discuss the story with her and remind her who the bad guys are - can't do that in the theater. We haven't done LOTR yet because we're pretty sure she'll be scared of the Ringwraiths and Uruk Hai - but this is a child who had nightmares about witches for years after seeing the Wizard of Oz.

ReginaPhilangie Fri 21-Jun-13 14:54:24

We took dd1 and 2 (10 and 6) last weekend. DD1 loved it, but dd2 was really bored and drove me nuts with the "Is it finished yet", "Is it finished yet"? on repeat!

farewellfigure Fri 21-Jun-13 14:52:22

DS (5) totally freaked out watching the puffer fish episode of Octonauts and has never ever let us watch it again. Barnacles, Peso and Kwazi get swallowed by a whale, and Barnacles actually falls into the stomach acid. He was hysterical (hyperventilaing, sobbing and flinging himself onto the sofa face down) and truly believed they would all die and there would be no more Octonauts. That's why I believe under 7s don't know how to differenciate between fact and fiction. Sad really as I really want to watch that episode again. May have to watch it when he's in bed.

MrsOakenshield Fri 21-Jun-13 14:17:35

well, I was one of very few voices that thought children of this kind of age shouldn't watch the Hobbit, or indeed the 2nd 2 LOTR films - but pretty much everyone else was fine with it. I will be the mean mum who doesn't let DD watch anything until she is within a year of the classification age! I do think that just because your child shows no external signs of violence in a film having affected them, doesn't mean it hasn't affected them - and the fact that they could sit through violent films without flinching does, to me, suggest they have become desensitized.

ParadiseChick Fri 21-Jun-13 14:12:55

You know thinking about this the one thing I can pick out of a film that has freaked my seven year old out was the screaming monkey in toy story three when he was 4.

He's a huge huge geek star wars and comic book fan any we've never let him watch a thing over a 12A.

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