To think pretty people are automatically treated better regardless of personality?(67 Posts)
Mulling this over and I'm wondering if I'm being unreasonable to think this? Im thinking in particular of pretty people who are nasty a lot of the time yet still seem to be popular and well liked whereas
an ugly a less attractive person would not be forgiven for being nasty so easily or quickly and would not be as popular as a result.
I'm quite sure the bit where she said I'm thinking of the pretty ones who are nasty lots of the time, or words to that effect made it clear.
Of course it's true. Sucks for everyone who isn't pretty, but it doesn't make it any less true.
Although I tend to find that the pretty but nasty ones are not genuinely liked, but people will put on a front around them and act like they like them regardless.
No, not really, people tend to automatically think you are up yourself or shallow. Sometimes you get a feeling of actual hatred from other women too. I have some gorgeous friends who are lovely on the inside too.
News Flash: Life is easier if you are beautiful.
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Remembering my own school years and now looking at dd's friends, I think the ones who have social success are not necessarily the most beautiful ones. And, as thebody suggests, perhaps even less so now than in my day.
Yes, queen bees got attention, but you could set yourself up as a queen bee without much in the way of looks to back you up if you had the queen bee personality. Otoh somebody who was incredibly beautiful wouldn't be elected queen bee by others if she didn't so to speak run for election.
It was also possible to have a leading position without being either beautiful or the queen bee type; the most popular person I ever knew was overweight, with plain heavy features, but the most amazing fun: she could get any boy she wanted and everybody wanted to be her friend.
Not that I have ever been either stunningly beautiful or a social success.
Of course they are. We have the most beautiful girl on our team in work. A complete stunner (and naturally so, no make-up etc). People stare at her when she walks past.
Whenever we want something (the team that is) like an early finish or extra overtime - we 'send' her to ask our male manager or male HR head. Because through trial and error we've discovered that she gets a yes a LOT more often than the rest of us.
She is also a lovely girl and very humble about her beauty. But willing to take one for the team and flutter her eyelashes to get us perks . Very handy lol. It's just a fact.
I think beautiful people get a lot more privileges and get away with a lot more than average looking people, yes.
However, they also get more bitchiness and stereotyping than us average people so it all evens out I guess.
And I will never forget the time I went to my local pub and how people reacted to a seriously stunning woman.
Every week they have a band where people get up to sing with them and usually the regulars all clap along etc when this stunning woman sang (with a stunning voice to match) quite a few people rolled their eyes, grabbed their husbands hands and she got very few claps. The jealousy was amazing and sad to watch. The whole atmosphere just changed, it was so interesting to watch.
I talked to her afterwards and said how much I enjoyed her singing and she was so lovely, and I felt quite sad for her.
Penelope Lively observed that life happens differently for a beautiful woman than a plain one & often takes a different direction. Certainly the stand out attractive women I know of lead far from ordinary lives. I notice those that were blessed with good looks as children often become very confident adults. Those plain as children that blossom later often lack confidence in their looks and more broadly.
People respond much more positively to good looking children I've noticed.
Pretty people most definitely have an easier time in life.
I think that women who are actually beautiful, but not beautiful enough to make a living off their looks (model/actress/whatever) have some difficulty career-wise and generally just wind up marrying well.
pros and cons, and also a lot of complex interplay. It's difficult to separate out physical good looks from all the other factors which influence how people react to you.
Overall if you control for all other factors you probably get more positive reactions from other people if you are a 9 rather than a 2, or a 7 rather than a 6 etc.
There's a lot of evidence confirming this, but there is some very interesting research that surfaces every so often that self confidence can drive attractiveness, rather than vice versa. Also just changing your looks - clothes, hair, etc - can have quite a major impact on peoples reaction to you I have found.
I also think there is a natural attraction nearly all young women have (being nubile) that cannot be copied.
I can believe it, LazyJaney. As someone said earlier, it could be the difference between "beautiful" and "attractive". The former might be connected to (say) facial symmetry or evolutionary markers of good health. The latter is far more to do with how you move your face when you're speaking, how you look at people, carry yourself, and whether people feel comfortable in your company.
Also agree with the poster who said some people are just good at convincing others that they are beautiful. There are quite a few so-called beautiful celebrities for whom I just can't see it
I'm not sure. At work I think ability and overall competence prevail. As far as the beautiful children go I recall a girl in my year at high school who modelled and was in adverts, magazines, etc. She and her friend were the most beautiful in the year, held court and got most attention at 12/13.
Fast forward five years and the plainer, quieter, clever girls had lost their braces, their glasses and were off to uni to spread their wings.
Those two stayed in the provinces - married the local big mouths - divorced the local big mouths - still think tthey are fabulous but outside their narrow, comfort zone both are pretty pathetic.
I thought that had been proven - I think there is some data on it somewhere - but yes, more attractive people are treated better.
I have just seen the phrase 'marrying well' and have got myself into such a knot of indignation about it that I am going to have to go away and sit in a darkened room. I have also forgotten what I was going to say about prettiness....
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