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the woman that killed herself over the bedroom tax

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marjproops Sun 12-May-13 19:58:02

terrible story.

one of the politicians saying on the news she must have had other probs to have done this?

another government excuse to fob off what theyve done?

womans son said she was fine before BT came into fruition. he said its the people in big offices and big houses that have done this, and she said in her suicide note its their fault.

Im really struggling too with this BT , Im sure lots of people are, someone on the news said its not fair especially on the disabled who've had adaptations made, (we're in that category).

so....another fob off by the government, or do you think theyll stop this anytime soon?

theodorakisses Thu 01-Aug-13 22:16:10

I really don't want to offend anyone, I just wish that we could get any help. I would pay for a social work assessment, they can have whatever they like from us financially, that isn't the point, it is so hard to even get anyone to call back when they say they will. The police promised to make an urgent call, still no word.

sorrelthemop Thu 01-Aug-13 20:30:38

that's right theodorakisses people work all their lives and pay their way like your dad and others just drift along and have it handed to them on a plate.

It's high time this was put to an end once and for all. People are sick of it.

theodorakisses Thu 01-Aug-13 20:19:49

I don't want to upset anyone, please believe that. My in laws aged 70 plus have always lived in council accommodation and not worked. My lovely dad, all alone, who has paid literally hundreds of thousands of tax is now and pretty much destitute. In laws have been moved to a care home for free. My dad has about 5 grand left and is living in a flat. We have tried everything to get him assessed, sadly yesterday he was arrested and even now there isn't anywhere for us to go.the landlord is threatening legal action for the rent, quite fairly but there isn't anywhere safe for him to go. All he needs is a place like the in laws have but we can't even get a social worker.

FourGates Thu 01-Aug-13 19:38:13

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

crazynanna Thu 01-Aug-13 19:29:52

Free house? Well I had better call my local council to have them repay me all of those £550s per month I have been paying them for my flat

IneedAsockamnesty Thu 01-Aug-13 19:25:31

Who gets a free house?

Social housing is subject to rent payments the same as any other rented house

gamerchick Thu 01-Aug-13 19:13:38

What the hells a free house when it's at home?

sorrelthemop Thu 01-Aug-13 19:10:08

Mass sleep out?

I hope it rains on them.

Other people have to cut their suit according to their cloth. We'd all love to have 6 kids and have a free house to stick them all in hmm

brookeandlilasmummy Thu 01-Aug-13 18:44:14

link to a mass sleep out demonstration that is happening in 40 uk cities so far
This was born from a thread in a anti bedroom tax room and is now proving to be massive get involved !!

littlemisssarcastic Mon 20-May-13 20:37:12

I heard although I don't know how true this is that the lady in question was in quite a lot of debt before the bedroom tax was implemented and the bedroom tax was the final straw.

handcream Sun 19-May-13 18:32:27

I do wonder why her family couldnt have helped her out. The son was on TV the other day blaming the 'government'. Surely he and his siblings could have helped. There was what £20 to find between them?

TBH - I am getting really uncomfortable about people blaming the 'government' when something happens. She was single living in a three bed house paid by benefits. It is surely not unreasonable to be expected to move to a smaller house. This lady was offered the option to stay, she was offered some money to go. She didnt want to, her family were unwilling to help out financially. So does the council just say, Ok, stay there?

littlemisssarcastic Sat 18-May-13 19:15:18

Is it possible that the woman in question didn't get DLA because she took care of herself and didn't have mobility issues?
DLA is rather rigid in that respect AFAIK.
I feel dreadfully sorry for the lady, the driver of the lorry and this lady's children.
However, I do not think the govt are wholly responsible for this poor lady's demise, and sadly, explaining in her notes that it was the fault of the govt as far as she is concerned will do little to relieve the guilt and trauma that her children and the lorry driver are feeling. Neither will it make any difference to the benefit reduction policy.
Very very sad indeed.

marjproops Sat 18-May-13 17:49:27

a friend has told me that a single dad has just killed himself because he couldnt manage having so much money taken away too?

dont know full story, said in passing as i said i cant take much more of this.

marjproops Tue 14-May-13 22:23:32

meanwhile theres (i dont care) smugeron enjoyiong himself with prince (ill never know poverty)Harry in new york.

aaarrrggghhh! theres me and Dc living on beans the rest of the week.

went to counselling today and said about all this and counsellor said theres nothing they can do, but id be threatened to have DC taken away if i keep saying it.

i say i CANT do it because of DC and I love her too much but that doesnt mean i never think seriously about it.

Monty27 Mon 13-May-13 23:35:52

Clearly people who succeed aren't always making a cry for help, they don't see outside the fact that they are useless on this earth sad and that perhaps their loved ones would genuinely be better off without them,

Betty and Everlong, and others with experience, it's heartbreaking for those that are left behind and threads like this must be very painful.

Likeitorlumpit fair play for the public apology.

SirBoobAlot Mon 13-May-13 23:25:27

I hope you're more freaking empathetic than that to your clients. "You've been given some money and a suggestion, so why are you still complaining?"


PeneloPeePitstop Mon 13-May-13 23:24:01

You've got to be pretty set on an idea to throw yourself in front of a vehicle.

x2boys Mon 13-May-13 23:20:33

i am a mental health nurse i have nursed lots of people whotry and commit suicide prhaps it was a ry for help that went wrong

PeneloPeePitstop Mon 13-May-13 23:19:39

It's not a simple matter of desire to live close. She needed a support network and adequate transport links to get through life with her auto immune disability.

x2boys Mon 13-May-13 23:16:16

she was given 2000 pounds and offereda more suitable property six miles away i would like to live nearer my family too but canyt afford it

my BIL had no mental health issues at all......none!!

PeneloPeePitstop Mon 13-May-13 21:39:47

marj, they'd congratulate themselves on a job well done

marjproops Mon 13-May-13 21:21:13

Is there ANY way this thread can be sent to Scameron? as if hed do anything anyway, but still........

MNHQ, any way, these top nobs need to see this.

PeneloPeePitstop Mon 13-May-13 21:12:23

Nobody told me about disability benefits when the kids were diagnosed.
That was a vat of treacle I had to negotiate solo...

SlowlorisIncognito Mon 13-May-13 20:54:10

I think saying "she must have had other problems" is a silly thing to say.

If she had mental health issues, she was not getting adequate support for them. She may not have been getting adequate support for her disability or claiming disability benifits or other out of work benifits if some of what has been reported on this thread is correct. The job of society is to help her with those "other problems" not push her to the point where her problems seem insurmountable.

Just because someone says something in a suicide note doesn't make it true, but this is probably the thing which pushed her over the edge. Sadly, she will probably not be the last to do this. The government does not care sad

So sorry for all of you who have personal experience of suicide flowers it is such a dreadful thing.

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