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to feel sorry for Benedict Cumberbatch in the new Star Trek film? <possible spoilers>

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HerrenaHandbasket · 12/05/2013 16:40

They keep hitting him, poor dab. Clearly they don't understand him like I do.

Lovely lovely Benedict....

I've listed a spoiler warning because I want to drool over enthuse about the film with y'all Wink

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LeonieDelt · 12/05/2013 16:51

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gordyslovesheep · 12/05/2013 16:53

Oh yes - it's not his fault he's a super evil being - they made him that way the bastards

I proper cried I did - it was ace Grin

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Lovecat · 12/05/2013 17:11

But it didn't hurt him, did it, I thought he was impervious?

Fantastic film. Saw it last night and want to see it again already. Although without DH this time so I don't have him muttering 'what have I seen her in? I know I've seen her in something!' whenever Alice Eve came onscreen...

Nice to see Noel Clarke in it too - what a horrible decision he had to make Sad

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ThePavlovianCat · 12/05/2013 17:12

The plotting wasn't brilliant and it did feel like most of it was a setup for the next film (ie the war) but Benedict was great (and Leonard Nimoy of course!)

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 12/05/2013 17:26

Leonard Nimoy looked very old, I said to dh that they should film him saying lots of random lines so they can slot them into films as they come up.

Not got used to Spock being all kissy kissy.

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superbagpuss · 12/05/2013 17:30

khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

although I did ruin my Dh impression of me by thinking the original wrath of khan was about Klingons. 32 years old and I just thought they were the baddies

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iklboo · 12/05/2013 17:33

Alice Eve was in Starter for Ten
As was Mr Cumberbatch
And James McAvoy (X-Men)
And Dominic Cooper (Captain America)
And Rebecca Hall (Iron Man 3)
And Mark Gatiss (Sherlock)

That film was GOLD for the cast!

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NeverTooManyCats · 12/05/2013 18:03

I saw it yesterday as well. As a long time trekkie, i thought the film was amazing. Absolutely loved it. All the characters were played fantastically well and there wasn't a moment in it that was dull

my only gripe is that Bones seems to be put aside, when in TOS he was pretty prominent.

Got a new kitten today, her name is Noonien. Full name - Khat Noonien Singh

I am such a geek

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iklboo · 12/05/2013 18:06

I agree we need more Bones. In fact next film should just be Karl Urban for at least 90 minutes.

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LeonieDelt · 12/05/2013 18:23

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NiceTabard · 12/05/2013 18:33

I saw it yesterday, also a long time trekkie!

Must admit I was disappointed, it felt disjointed and the interactions seemed to be based on the fact we know from TOS etc how they interact rather than being built up within this new lot of actors. Also we saw it 3D and they seemed to have spent more time on the 3D effects than thinking about the story!

Despite that is was still enjoyable as an action type film and benedict cumberbatch was great and I did cry a bit when they did the dying thing (back to front! didn't see that coming) and of course leonard nimoy ROCKS.

I have to admit I came home and watched a TOS episode to soothe myself afterwards, and happily it was the one where kirk gets to hold a giant phallus so that cheered me right up Grin

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 12/05/2013 18:39

I am Very Worried about Vulcan. Iirc, they destroyed it in the last film, and one of Spock's parents died on Vulcan - and in this film they were talking about New Vulcan.

But in the original series, both Spock's parents make appearances, and when he goes back to Vulcan for his Pon Farr, it is Vulcan he goes to, his childhood home, not New Vulcan.

I thought this film was going to involve some wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff where they went back and prevented the destruction of Vulcan etc. But it didn't.

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NiceTabard · 12/05/2013 18:45

Oh that would have been nice.

But not going to happen I guess!

I'm sure old spock is doing a good job of making everything nice on new vulcan Smile

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 12/05/2013 18:50

S'not right though >

Right at the end, when they were heading off on the Five Year Mission, and Spock was asking where they were going to head for, I really wanted Kirk to say, 'Second star on the left and straight on 'til morning'.

They so need me on the script writing team. [modest]

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NiceTabard · 12/05/2013 18:55

When he asked what heading I wanted Kirk to point and say "that away"!!!

I'm sure he said that in one of the films but I forget which. Not much of a fan am I Grin

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marjproops · 12/05/2013 18:59

im a trekkie but i cant get into this new stuff.

1st film. why was Chekov there? he didnt appear in the series till season 2.

as for spock and Uhura. nooooooooooo. not good. no need.

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LeonieDelt · 12/05/2013 19:00

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NiceTabard · 12/05/2013 19:02

Stuff like chekov being there can be explained by the changes to the timeline due to nero.

For eg TOS spock and kirk didn't get together on the enterprise and start their 5 year mission until they were in their 30s, whereas this new lot are in their 20s.

I think if you are a die hard TOS fan you have to try and separate it in your mind and just see it as another action type film.

And I couldn't agree more about spock and uhura wrong wrong wrong just so wrong.

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marjproops · 12/05/2013 19:11

and what about Captain pike? I know, delving too deep in a fictional thing, too pedantic here, and itll all be explained by a timey wimey anomoly type thing in the end!

like Worf in the best ST episode EVER 'trials and tribulations' when the others ask him about the difference in the appearance of the tos Klingons and him and ask if theres a genetic mutaion or something and he says 'we dont talk about it'. Bah humbug!

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NiceTabard · 12/05/2013 19:12

Ha that is BRILLIANT that episode so funny

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lurkedtoolong · 12/05/2013 19:13

Right at the end, when they were heading off on the Five Year Mission, and Spock was asking where they were going to head for, I really wanted Kirk to say, 'Second star on the left and straight on 'til morning'.

YES. Me too, a missed opportunity.

Benedict was fine despite the punching, he was sexy enough to cope.

And more Karl Urban would have been great.

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NiceTabard · 12/05/2013 19:15

Am feeling like a really rubbish fan now. Which episode was the second star thing in? I am rewatching at the mo so will keep an eye out for it!

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elfycat · 12/05/2013 19:25

Loved the film, DH and I agreed it was better than the last and we loved that. Karl Urban has Bones down so pat that even DeForest Kelly couldn't beat him in a contest, and it would be great to see him back as the third-part of the adventuring duo team they have going at the moment though he was running very fast at the beginning

I was hoping they'd get Michael Dorn to be one of the Klingons, after all he played his own grandfather in The Undiscovered Country so I don't see why he couldn't have played allowing for the younger Kirk Worf's great-grandfather or whatever.

Wasn't the Tribble a nice touch, especially as it's going to be Klingons next OI JJ! GET MICHAEL DORN ON THE PHONE and they could be a useful plot point.

I also muttered the 'second star..' line at the time and I'm sure the book will be around. But maybe Kirk isn't much or a reader.

not a life long trekkie

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elfycat · 12/05/2013 19:26

Second star is from 'Peter Pan' nice

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