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To spend a lot on something that lasts years instead of similar on lots of cheaper items that don't last?

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babysaurus Thu 09-May-13 21:12:20

This is a light hearted AIBU, please be gentle!

A friends daughter, 9, hates brushing her hair as its thick and brushing hurts it. She also fights having it washed for the same reason. Her mum has bought detangling sprays and lots of different brushes, "the last one cost me £8", but none have helped enough. I have a Mason Pearson brush which she used (I took it over for her to try) and the difference was amazing. Unfortunately these brushes cost £35+. My friend said she would (not could) pay that much for a brush as its ridiculous, but has prob spent at least that already on cheaper brands.

This prompted a lighthearted discussion with her over buying one off expensive products that last forever (my last Mason Pearson was a 12th birthday present and it lasted till I was 36) and her preference of buying cheaper things but on a regular basis (she has pans that look like Le Creuset but aren't, for example) because paying huge amounts for things when you can get an equivalent for less is apparently the way to go. (Not a purely financial decision.)

So, if you were there too, would you be agreeing with me or my friend...?!

hollyisalovelyname Sun 03-Nov-13 09:36:50

Get a Tangle Teaser. They're brilliant

Jan49 Sun 12-May-13 22:13:29

That's 45 minutes.

Jan49 Sun 12-May-13 22:13:09

I have a ds, not a dd, but I think if I had a child whose hair took 45 a day to untangle and brush I'd want them to have it cut a lot shorter. Spend the money on a haircut rather than an expensive brush!

orangeandemons Sun 12-May-13 21:23:33

Yy to tieing it up in bed. That definitely stops it tangling up.

babysaurus Sun 12-May-13 20:34:23

WMittens my friends DD is a bit of a soap avoider, although not entirely sure if the hair thing is part of it.

differentnameforthis Sun 12-May-13 11:32:21

$79, not $779

differentnameforthis Sun 12-May-13 11:31:58

My daughter has the same kind of hair. NO WAY would I spend $779 (lowest price I found online) for a hair brush!

I find that washing with a shampoo & cond, and wearing it up in bed/most of the day help heaps! The de-tangling spray we have used int he past only seems to add to the difficulty once dried! So I just use water for de-tangling!

RhondaJean Sun 12-May-13 10:04:08

I often have this disagreement with my mother re furniture and things like that.

Buy cheap and buy twice. Or a dozen times in her case.

She actually has a mason Pearson brush, the end bristle are worn down now but as she bought it in her 20s and she's now 66 it's done pretty well!

I lost mines. Gutted. Haven't replaced it yet.

I agree with most thing the better quality you can afford the less it costs you long term. There are some exceptions, children's clothes for day to day possibly being one of them.

WMittens Sun 12-May-13 09:56:36

I spend £1 on a hairbrush from wilkinsons and generally buy one every couple of years. A £35 brush would have to last 70 years to be value for money

Not necessarily, value is not just about cost but also about effectiveness. I had no idea brushes could be so different, so I'm just going to make up some numbers to demonstrate:

Assume the cheap brush takes 20 minutes to get tangles out of hair, and the £35 brush takes 5 minutes - time saving 15 minutes per day.
What's 15 minutes worth? If we take the national minimum wage (not applicable to a 9 year old, but we need some way to quantify it) of £6.19 for over 21s, it takes 23 days to be worth £35. Leaving aside money, what is an extra 15 minutes in bed every morning worth to you? (Or at least, to someone with very tangly hair.)

One argument for a £35 brush for a 9 year old: OP says the girl hates brushing and washing her hair - it is possible she now associates personal hygiene/grooming practices with unpleasantness so adapts to avoid them - this could cause problems with social interaction later. That is an extreme extrapolation, but I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility - school can be cruel.

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHopeful Sun 12-May-13 09:01:41

I totally agree with everyone saying "buy cheap, buy twice"

The number of times dh has bought the cheapest option only to have it break on us a few weeks later. It's so bloody annoying. My only problem is that I haven't yet matured to the point where I don't lose thinks on a regular basis. Sometimes I buy cheap because I know it will vanish into the ether within weeks.

sarahtigh Sun 12-May-13 08:19:56

i've had a dale of norway jumper about 15 years still looks great and not stretched it is so warm it does not get worn that often as too warm to wear inside the house

nooka Sun 12-May-13 06:54:04

I think in this particular case there are two things though, one is whether to buy to last (which is always great if you can afford it and the more expensive item does actually last), and the other is whether it is worth paying more for something that really works, as opposed to getting by with something that doesn't do a very good job.

I think hairbrushes are quite a personal choice -for example I really dislike the feel of my mother's Mason Pearson, and always buy Denman's because for me that's the brush that works best for my hair.

My dd had very very tangly hair when she was younger, often waking in the morning with a total bird's nest at the back. Given enough time I could always detangle it in the end, but it could take 45 mins or so before it was totally brushable. In the end we had it cut short, and looking back I can't think why we didn't do that years before. She looks much nicer with it short, and we could have avoided all those battles.

kiwigirl42 Sun 12-May-13 06:31:16

I try to buy the best I can afford and so does DH. I got a brand new Le Creuset 28cm casserole dish for £25 on ebay recently. Just takes a bit of searching for bargains. Also have bought a brand new £200 Dale of Norway cardigan for £12

Madamecastafiore Sun 12-May-13 05:54:19

If agree with you. Made DH spend £35 in Lakeland on a potato ricer yesterday. He looked a bit stunned but I said looked more hard wearing and robust than the shitty shinny metal one,

Will report back in 15 years when it better still be going strong!

PasswordProtected Sun 12-May-13 05:50:44

I was brought up to buy the best I could afford at the time. This principle seems to have worked so far.
Recently I heard someone saying that they were too poor to buy cheaply. It sounds like a contradiction in terms, but makes sense if you think about it.

McGeeDiNozzo Sun 12-May-13 04:44:34

My significant other regularly evangelises about the long-term savings quality purchases can bring. This is particularly true of shoes.

lubeybooby Sun 12-May-13 01:32:19

It's not difficult!

My point in mentioning my daughter was she's the one whose hair I brushed all her 'too little to do it herself' life and she hated anyone but me doing it because I never hurt her.

You just have to be careful that's all. Make sure you allow plenty of time if it's very tangled and have some consideration for when it's pulling and take the pressure off the scalp by holding that section of hair. Untangle the worst with your fingers if need be.

It doesn't have to hurt the child no matter what brush or comb you use

StuntGirl Sat 11-May-13 22:47:05

Well lubeybooby this twenty-something woman disagrees with you.

littlepeas Sat 11-May-13 20:27:41

YANBU. I always get the best I can afford. I am now off to google said hairbrush as my dd hates having her hair brushed (wild, curly and getting longer - she is only 3).

sarahtigh Sat 11-May-13 20:15:24

sign up to autograph tights got some in sale for £6 with cables ( normally £12) the plain ones are £8 though

it works the other way too some years ago I had a X- type jaguar car and though extremely comfy and nice to drive it was nothing but hassle and so expensive to repair by BF ( now DH) said it had a really poor quality of build cheap bolts that shear off etc, had about 50,000 mileas on clock when I sold it; I now have a practical renault kangoo has 130,000 miles on clock and has only ever had new tyres

mrsjay Fri 10-May-13 10:30:16

I bought DD1 a really good brush when she was 9 she had similar hair ( i cant remember the make) anyhoo she is 20 and still using it, I think if something is going to work/last then of course it is worth it, but imo spending money on something that is designer or expensive just because isn't worth the money if it falls apart

Mintyy Fri 10-May-13 10:25:04

I agree when it comes to opaque tights.

M&S autograph ones, which cost about £8 a pair, last more than 3 times as long as the standard M&S ones.

OnFoot Fri 10-May-13 10:18:32

I was going to quote Sam Vimes' boots theory of economics too! Love Pratchett.

I'd agree that there are lots of things where you should buy a good quality item if you can afford it. Though there are things where I happily buy the cheapest I can find because it won't be needed for long.But for items that I use a lot, then I try to buy good quality, though I do hunt around for the cheapest supplier.

I also subscribe to the "cost per wear" clothes theory - I'd far rather spend money on the perfect pair of jeans that will get worn tons of time than on a pricy posh dress that will be worn rarely. The posh dress will come from the sales or the charity shop as I just can't justify it to myself.

PosyNarker Fri 10-May-13 09:56:33

YANBU if you have the money and it's not a disposable or fashion item, I would always get the best I could afford.

My Jaeger winter coat (classic style) is still going strong 3 years on. My friend's was half the price, but only barely lasted a season.

FacebookWanker Fri 10-May-13 09:51:08

The first pair I bought cost £30 and lasted for about 4 years. They were so comfortable too. I have such problems finding footwear that doesn't cause me problems with my I'll have to start searching again (or maybe buy some insoles with arch supports)...

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