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I think UKIP are the middle and upper class division of the BNP.... suggesting compulsory abortion for unborn babies with Down Syndrome

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JakeBullet Tue 30-Apr-13 13:51:03

Or rather yet another of their candidates has made a stupid comment. They really are not all that good are they?


Yet another reason not to vote for them.

flatpackhamster Tue 30-Apr-13 17:48:57


Do you agree with this bloke then flatpack <curious> ?

All the bad, evil things that everyone says, I definitely agree with them. Especially the bit about murdering children and eating them.

Of course I fucking don't. Curious my arse.

Tiggygirl Tue 30-Apr-13 17:56:01

Good god who are these vile people who make up the UkIP?? I live in sussex and remarkably they are very well supported ( judging by the huge billboards being erected everywhere ) Scary to think that so many people agree with such rubbish views .

thebody Tue 30-Apr-13 17:58:16

That's just it tiggy. People will vote for who they think will represent them.

Lots if people don't feel the main parties are listening to them.

Vile man.

JakeBullet Tue 30-Apr-13 18:02:31

Pleased to hear it....yeah I was curious as your post was odd to say the least based upon the news article. I'm amazed you didn't say so up front instead of ranting on about middle class and left wing Guardian readers hmm.

NicholasTeakozy Tue 30-Apr-13 18:28:37

So UKIP is racism for posh people Somebloke?

AThingInYourLife Tue 30-Apr-13 18:34:44

"It's not a gigantic leap from that to killing people who are disabled after birth, is it?"

It's pretty gigantic.

The argument that abortion is "not a giant leap from" murder is not one I accept.

Compulsory abortion is monstrous in all situations.

Latara Tue 30-Apr-13 18:42:34

I don't like the UKIP, and i do read the Guardian (online) i admit it...

NotForProfit Tue 30-Apr-13 18:44:28

after everything Geoffery Clarke has said, UKIP still think he would make an "excellent councillor". That, imho, is the most shocking thing about the whole article.

flatpackhamster Tue 30-Apr-13 18:47:05


Pleased to hear it....yeah I was curious as your post was odd to say the least based upon the news article. I'm amazed you didn't say so up front instead of ranting on about middle class and left wing Guardian readers hmm.

Amazing, really, that I didn't rush to jump in to the Mumsnet Circlejerk. Maybe I'm just tired of the way that every three days some boring twit who thinks she's being original posts a story about 'Evul Tories' or 'Evul Gorje Osbrone' or 'Evul David Cameron stealing our benefits' or, at the moment 'Evul UKIP racialists'. And then the same crowd leap on the boring bandwagon, all furiously condemning whatever it was they read in some left-wing rag, and feeling all smug and superior because they'd never do anything awful, they're just lovely in every measurable way.

Also, just <curious>, but do you also beat your husband and is that OK? Since we're casting random offensive aspersions on people's points of view, thought I'd muck in with the gals! grin

flatpackhamster Tue 30-Apr-13 18:48:59


So UKIP is racism for posh people Somebloke?

If that's the case why are the majority of UKIP's supporters C2 working and lower middle class? Didn't they get the memo that it was only racism for posh people?

That also makes me wonder - these UKIP voters who are bad racialists and bigots - what were they when they were Labour voters? Were they racialists and bigots then, but just hid it secretly really well? hmm

Latara Tue 30-Apr-13 18:55:48

I've met bigoted people who support the left, middle and right wing political parties flatpack - i don't think any party has a monopoly on bigots, some people just are more savvy at hiding their real feelings it seems.

Thing is, UKIP are basically a single-issue party, aren't they. They're anti-EU and anti-immigration; such other policies as they have are broadly Conservative.

If your whole raison d'etre is opposing foreign stuff in general, it's going to take some very careful finessing not to come across as racist. This is not helped if your party turns out to be very attractive to candidates and voters with racist views.

(Wouldn't a truly libertarian party feel it wasn't the state's place to set the rules of marriage? Did we already do that one?)

hopipolla Tue 30-Apr-13 19:11:21

YABVU I don't like them but ideologically UKIP are nowhere near the BNP

JulieMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 30-Apr-13 19:13:18

Can we just remind you of our lovely Talk guidelines

Viviennemary Tue 30-Apr-13 19:15:29

I read that the major parties are getting extremely worried about UKIP. Hence the smear campaign. I don't agree with some of their policies but don't know that much about them.

navada Tue 30-Apr-13 19:23:26

Nigel Farage is often described as 'charismatic'.

So a step up from Nick Griffin grin

finickypinickity Tue 30-Apr-13 19:28:04

I've just watched the local news and was shocked to see the UKIP chap in the photo who is accused of making the hand gesture was apparently reaching for a phone and the other pic is of him dressed as a pirate for a fancy dress party with the sword in his mouth. BBC main news must have missed that bit of the story unless i didnt see that parthmm

Now i have no idea which story is right but the bottom line is both versions of events are very plausible. UKIP have had a massive presence locally in Somerset which is a totally Tory area and they are definitely worried about the local election vote especially as we have so many old people here and quite a high turnout to vote.

We are becoming like America with their dirty smear campaigns and like a previous poster put up if you look at the convicted paedophiles who have served in both Tory and Labour parties its shocking. Dig deep enough and all of the main parties have grim candidates.

catgirl1976 Tue 30-Apr-13 19:37:50

I don't like UKIP

I read the Guardian

I feel superior to Nigel Farage. But then I think my cat is superior to Nigel Farage

<wanders off to eat some organic houmous and generally be a sterotype>

JakeBullet Tue 30-Apr-13 19:40:23

He's an ex H but could perhaps do with some beating grin .

Think that might be a qualified "yes".

Toadinthehole Tue 30-Apr-13 19:43:08

It's more accurate to say that Nigel Farage is Middle England's Mr. Bean. It is his appearance, plus the cheery yet tortured smile he constantly wears. As for the rest of them - UKIP would be nowhere without Farage so there's no point paying much attention to them (or voting for them).

The truth is that UKIP are a small party, and will take just about anyone they can get to put up as candidates. This means they will certainly put up a significantly higher proportion of cranks, bigots and general wierdos than the three main parties. I reckon anyone considering a UKIP vote ought to get down to the hustings and ask a few questions.

AngiBolen Tue 30-Apr-13 19:44:24

Compulsory abortion?

What kind of "politician" who even think of putting these two words together?

fanjoforthemammaries7850 Tue 30-Apr-13 19:50:50

Seriously reminds me of fact that in Nazi Germany my daughter would have been taken away from me and killed for the same reasons.

Very scary and depressing.

TondelayoSchwarzkopf Tue 30-Apr-13 19:52:01

I have lurked and posted on a lot of UKIP threads since the Nigel Farrage web chat that he begged and cried for a few years back and it always seems to end up with men people who are not regulars bringing up the same old tired tropes:

- Guardian readers
- People Who Live in North London
- Environmentalists (and their likely meretriciousness)
- Mumsnet Cabals
- Wild and interesting claims with no reference or source to back them up. How many Labour & Tory MPs are convicted Paedophiles? I would be genuinely interested to know.


MrsDeVere Tue 30-Apr-13 19:58:00

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finickypinickity Tue 30-Apr-13 19:58:38

All of them are convicted and not just accused from all of the political parties.

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