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To think that if a thread is deleted the real reason should be given.

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LEMisdisappointed Mon 29-Apr-13 12:14:54

MNHQ - you know i luffs ya!! But im a bit hmm just now - There was a horrible racist thread - everyone told the OP that it was racist. No buns were thrown (well quite a few at the OP to be fair, who didn't come back) She probably realised the error of her ways and was mortified. I really don't wnt to ressurect the thread, it doesn't matter what it was about, but the reason it was deleted was Not because of the reactions - at least i hope not, i hope it was deleted because it was racist and i think it was a bit of a cop out to say it was deleted because it turned into a bun fight. I don't know if the OP didn't return because she was embarrased or because she didn't have time but i think she should have been made aware that she was wrong - the deletion message does not indicate that. Not one single poster agreed with her.

Anticipates deletion smile

Trill Mon 29-Apr-13 12:16:18


It's their website and they can do what they like. Getting any explanation at all is a bonus.

Y A also BU to think that you know "the real reason" behind anything.

LEMisdisappointed Mon 29-Apr-13 12:18:58

i do, i knows everyfink i do <pokes tongue out at Trill>

cory Mon 29-Apr-13 12:19:07

I quite agree. Every thread deletion is motivated by either troll hunting or the bun fight argument, giving the impression that the fault is never with the OP and always with posters reacting to it. The people who reported the thread did so because of its racism not because of the responses.

LRDtheFeministDragon Mon 29-Apr-13 12:21:14

I agree. I reported and didn't respond on thread; I bet lots of people did. Saying it was a bunfight makes it sound as if the OP did nothing wrong. She did.

LEMisdisappointed Mon 29-Apr-13 12:22:10

I can;t help but wonder if thats a standard deletion message - maybe a more blanced one would be appropriate - "this thread was deleted because it didn't comply with talk guildlines" There really is no question that racism should be tolerated and if there is ANY question about it, then the thread should be pulled.

Trill Mon 29-Apr-13 12:24:45

Generally "being racist" is a reason to delete one post, or one contributor's posts, not a reason to delete a whole thread.

In a hypothetical situation where there was a racist OP but then a calm and rational discussion ensued, MNHQ might choose to delete posts that are openly racist but leave the discussion to stand.

If they were to state "because the OP was racist" as the reason for deleting the thread, users might question why other threads containing racism were not deleted in their entirety, and claim that MNHQ were being inconsistent.

LRDtheFeministDragon Mon 29-Apr-13 12:27:25

The OP was racist, trills.

Quite tricky to delete the OP and keep the thread.

LEMisdisappointed Mon 29-Apr-13 12:28:20

Well yes, delete the racist posts - but it would be a bit odd to have a thread with no OP!!! As i said maybe a "this thread was innappropriate" type message would suffice. But "lets face it its a bit of a bun fight" sort of implies childish behaviour really and i find that a bit patronising.

Not that i was childish on the thread of course, no sir grin

YoniMeKateMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 29-Apr-13 12:28:59

Hello all,

Sorry guys, it was a slip of the mouse and my fat fingers, nothing more.

I'll try and be more accurate with my clicking in the future.

LEMisdisappointed Mon 29-Apr-13 12:30:03

Have you been at the wine already?? grin here, have some brew

quoteunquote Mon 29-Apr-13 12:30:27

Bun fight, fair enough, she/he threw one, got pelted back(quite rightly),

It does give the impression that the contributing responses were not warranted.

but ho hum, I had to suppress the urge to suggest that a certain UKIP leader was in danger of outing himself as a poo troll.

jacks365 Mon 29-Apr-13 12:31:18

The op was out of order with her comments however some of the abuse and language hurled at her was appalling and disgusted me as much as the op did.

It was a bun fight but also had doubts about whether op was deliberately provocative.

mrsjay Mon 29-Apr-13 12:33:53

I agree. I reported and didn't respond on thread; I bet lots of people did. Saying it was a bunfight makes it sound as if the OP did nothing wrong. She did.

I agree with this a bunfight sounds so twee when an OP is seriously offensive , people react to offence and offensive posts angrily not bunfighting ,

cory Mon 29-Apr-13 12:35:34

Ah, we luffs you, Kate smile

YoniMeKateMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 29-Apr-13 12:43:15


Ah, we luffs you, Kate smile

I luffs you (all of MN) too baby

Trill Mon 29-Apr-13 12:52:56

Poor HQers - the more info they try to give us (or the more options for a generic "this thread has been deleted" message they put into their dropdown) the more we expect.

Sallyingforth Mon 29-Apr-13 13:12:55

I don't see the problem. Someone posted a deliberately provocative, racist thread and it was quite properly deleted.
Anyone who had read the thread would know why.
Anyone who hadn't read it didn't need to know why.
No lengthy explanation required.

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