to agree with Alice Roberts on Bounty?(84 Posts)
I did buy them, they were nice photos and we are all terrible photographers. But as another one with the baby in NICU but me on the normal post-natal ward, being pestered constantly when your baby isn't with you is horrible. If the NHS are going to let them on to the ward they should at least mention that the mums in certain beds have ill babies. Or the Bounty person could use some common sense when there is no baby with them!
My first child was 5 weeks early and very small because I had IUGR. He was in SCBU. Bounty lady came to my single room every day (burst in on me without knocking every time, once whilst I was expressing) and expressed disappointment "why are you still here?" kind of comments. I had to stay in for a fortnight because I had deranged liver function. I was shell shocked and distraught and only managed a weak "well I am still ill".
With my daughter who thankfully was an uncomplicated birth I told the bounty lady I wasn't interested (a different one in a different hospital). Was on a normal postnatal ward this time but she also showed no respect for my privacy, pulling aside the curtains without asking. I had to really stand up to her to make her go away. Then a bit later she came back and demanded to know whether the baby was my first. I was so shocked I told her and was really pissed off with myself for telling her anything.
I don't like them and the stories about bereaved parents getting reminders are so sad.
I agree with everyone who says the mini Sudocrem is the best bit in those Bounty packs.. the rest is just a pile of crappy vouchers and leaflets!
When I gave birth, the Bounty lady/photographer came around just as I was having a breastfeeding crisis and my OH told her we were not interested... She said "I'll come back later then!", we told her no thanks. In a ward of 4 beds, we were the only ones who declined having our pic taken...
I just cannot imagine a ward of, eg, recovering from surgery having to deal with a salesman on the ward immediately afterwards.
In the hospital I had my children in, the Bounty salespeople wore pale coloured tunic and navy trousers so that they looked like fucking nursing staff and don't identify themselves as being there to sell anything. What the fuck? Why is this acceptable?
I'd have no issue with the ward photography thing - if it was done on a "you go to them" basis - if they had their couple of hours each day and you could either request a visit from them, or go to a day room or whatever where they were set up. I don't even have much of an issue with the marketing angle - I refuse to give phone numbers out - they've accepted that both times and they get my "firstname.lastname@example.org" email address anyway.
What I DO have an issue with is the behaviour of their reps ON the ward - the barging into rooms and cubicles without checking it's suitable to do so (always sensitive on post-natal wards as you're never quite sure what bodily bits are being checked and utilised at the time) and their behaviour toward women who for whatever reason don't have their baby with them (and a side order of insensitive twuntage when confronted with babies with things like feed tubes in as well in some cases). Being stuck on that ward with those mums and babies was the longest, worst, most hideous night of my life, and then for that cow to rock up and demand to know where my baby was in the way she did - in the mental state I was in at that point could have really really shattered me.
I've got a vague memory of the other one that sometimes did that hospital coming in demanding my name and basically trying to pretend to be medical staff (I'd seen her writing all the names down off the board with a wheelie trolley full of Bounty bags earlier in the day - so I can only assume as to what she was doing)... but that one's a hazy memory compared to "where's the baby" bitch woman.
For the people who do want photos done, you know you can hire a photographer to come on the ward. Book around visiting time and there should be no problem.
I think Fliss point is highly relevant. The Stena stairlift rep isn't allowed into the geriatric ward, nor is the Betterware rep with the catalogue of kitchen aides. And these things are actually useful!
There's just no place for ANY sales reps on a ward.
Someone came to take photos with both DDs (same woman) but she didn't give out free stuff or information. I had free stuff given by the hospital before DDs were born and forms given out by midwives.
I never had an issue with them or knew they were a problem before coming to MN.
I had no idea Bounty kept records of babies who didn't survive. I have been being accused for years of signing up my STBXHs g.friend as she keeps getting literature and her baby was still born. They blame me. I do not contact them or would have let them see this thread.
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Quote, that's just terrible so very sorry for your loss.
I have been very lucky not to meet one of these people during my post natal stays and glad I havnt.
I remember her, she was almost suggesting that SCBU couldn't run without her
The Bounty lady in our hospital gave us a wide berth after DH helpfully told her that her camera was much lower spec than his and wouldn't work so well in the lower light levels on the ward.
quote that is awful. I am sorry you lost your sons
There was the Bounty lady on a recent-ish thread who was insistent that she was an integral part of the maternity care team. Seriously deluded.
(The one who came to us went away as soon as we said no thank you; DH was gutted as he was spoiling for a bounty showdown!)
I remember the other thread on this. Similar to a couple of other stories here, my DS was whisked away to SCBU due to being prem, and the midwives kindly moved me into a private room on the maternity ward. I suspect this was because I was an absolute wreck who burst into tears any time someone with a baby went past
I was in the ward for two weeks, with DS coming and going from SCBU. I think different Bounty reps came to my room three times, and not one of them knocked. They just barged in. I was lucky, in that DP was able to be with me most of the time and was there to get rid of them. If they'd caught me on my own, I genuinely don't know that I'd have been able to say no to them, I was so sleep-deprived and stressed and hormonal and weepy.
They should definitely be removed. Or at least not allowed to roam the wards.
I'm sad the Bounty women didn't come near me on the ward, I was desparate to tell her to fuck off. I think she knew this though its disgusting that they are allowed on the ward, I signed up to MNs FB say no to bounty campaign.
RedHelenB Do you work for Bounty by any chance?
DS1 was taken straight to NICU and then SCBU and when i was on the ward (without him) I felt really left out because this woman was going to see all the other mums WITH their babies and the only person who came to talk to me was the hospital chaplain. I did get photos done with DS2 (didn't buy them) and have never had any marketing bumpf though suggesting sold on details so I must have ticked a box. It's the packs which bother me more than the women on the wards. Utter crap in all of them which just fills up the recycling bin. Don't get me started on that patronising Emma's Diary rubbish.
This all makes me very angry. I hope the Bounty woman comes when my DH is around. He's livid about it. Know if they tried any tactics he would give them a piece of his mind! Though the Bounty people probably know that if visitors are around they may have less luck than if it's just vulnerable new mum and baby.
If they come in and ask and I say no and they go away that's fine... but if they pester then I feel very sorry for the one who speaks to me. I'm not a violent person but some of these reps need a punch in the face and sat on.
How many years ago was that redhelen? I had dd last year and for 2 a4 size pics and 2 a5 it cost £50. Great value
I'd rather not have the option of the pics and have the knowledge that vulnerable women weren't being harassed tbh.
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