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Altinkum Mon 22-Apr-13 16:51:20

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landofsoapandglory Mon 22-Apr-13 16:58:14

Altinkum this will be quick cause I to do tea, but I will come back.

Firstly, I had a letter from the school today where they have said they have phoned our GP about an accident DS2 had to confirm his injuries. I phoned our GP, she spoke to me and told me that she would not be able to do that without my permission and has 100% not done it.

WRT the footwear, I would say the school has to make 'reasonable adjustment' to their uniform policy to accomadate your DN needs. If they don't they are going against the Equality Act 2010. If I were your DSis I would be phoning the EHRC Scotland for advice. I have been using the English one and they are very, very helpful.

fallon8 Mon 22-Apr-13 17:02:41

Yes,she can contact the Gp,but he will not give info ...this is a confidential matter between patient and doctor..headmistress is trying it on with your sister . Get your sister to contact the education authorities,go above the headmistress,it is obviously not working.maybe the medical team looking after your niece could provide a letter explaining the situation...but don't worry,the Gp will not give out informTion

Altinkum Mon 22-Apr-13 17:05:41

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Altinkum Mon 22-Apr-13 17:07:12

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JamieandtheMagicTorch Mon 22-Apr-13 17:14:32

Oh how bloody ridiculous (the Head's behaviour). Sorry, can't give advice, except that I might be tempted to write to a higher authority, if she continues to be so rigid.

shewhowines Mon 22-Apr-13 17:16:44

Can't help but had to comment. Just wow. The head needs her head examining and a kick up the for such an appallingly unsupportive attitude.
Absolutely disgusting. Move her if at all possible.

zukiecat Mon 22-Apr-13 17:21:09

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ubik Mon 22-Apr-13 17:21:52

I actually think they can share info - certainly in the NHS we can share basic pt info without parent's permission

prettybird Mon 22-Apr-13 17:24:32

If it is a Scottish State school, there is no Board of Governors (don't know what happens in private schools).

The Parent Council, which is the closest equivalent (but really closer to a PTA), would have no interest in this sort of thing - or at least, under the guidelines, should not have an interest. The most they could get involved would be to discuss in general terms a "uniform policy" and the parents could make it clear that they would expect reasonable adjusts to be made where necessary ie for your neice

Her best bet is first to complain formally to the head teacher and then to make a formal complaint to the Education Department of her council, who would look into it.

I could ask my SIL (who used to be that person in the Education dept of the council she works for) what she would advise.

Groovee Mon 22-Apr-13 17:25:12

I've never heard anything so ridiculous. Your poor Niece. I'd be going to the LEA and the MP and the MSP.

MyNewCatIsFab Mon 22-Apr-13 17:28:09

I'm in Scotland. Unless your sister has previously given permission for her GP to speak to the school I can't see them giving out any information. On school uniform, is it a state school? If so, my understanding is that they cannot legally enforce school uniform. This is from my experience as a parent on school councils where the head has to find strategies, particularly in high school, to 'encourage' all pupils to wear full uniform because he cannot legally force them to.

Go above the head, write ( or email it's quicker) the Director of Education

shewhowines Mon 22-Apr-13 17:32:28

i've just re read the Op. Actually you might be BalittlebitU. It happened a few years ago. It is NU for the head to want to see in writing, the medical necessity to flout a school rule. Has this been requested politely and the school still haven't seen anything?

I'm sure the head has heard all sorts of unreasonable reasons for parents to flout rules and how does she know this is one of the genuine ones, if she hasn't seen a medical note?

hope4455 Mon 22-Apr-13 17:32:48

If u tell me the local area i can find out ppl to contact. U need to contact ur MSP, head of education, local councillor as well as making an appointment with the head teacher. This situation is unacceptable and the school should b working with ur family instead of against. U can pm me with the area if u like.

ubik Mon 22-Apr-13 17:36:53

And yes -school uniform is not legally enforceable. It seems the Gead is bring very unreasonable. It's quite odd.

Altinkum Mon 22-Apr-13 17:54:35

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Altinkum Mon 22-Apr-13 17:55:36

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Altinkum Mon 22-Apr-13 18:01:21

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WilsonFrickett Mon 22-Apr-13 18:05:21

Would you class your niece as having a disability? - In which case the relevant legislation is the Education (Additional support for learning) act.

Your sis needs to complain in writing (simply so there is a record) and state that she will continue to send DN in suitable footwear. Just send it, then do it. If HT gives any further shit, complain in writing to Local Education authority, mentioning 'reasonable adjustment' a LOT.

I would personally hold fire on MPs etc (for now) as they will just refer back to the school. Is the HT threatening to exclude?

SofaKing Mon 22-Apr-13 18:05:52

If she is going to yorkhill ask her to see if there is a possibility of getting a letter from someone there for your niece. They are very nice and if they hear this awful story may be able to get someone to draft a letter for you.

I'm in Scotland and my sister was encased in plaster from neck to hips following an op for spina bifida. My parents still had to provide her with a letter and she was disciplined for missing pe until it arrived. She also had difficulties with her own son not wearing school uniform, I can confirm they cannot enforce it and also they are not permitted to discipline your niece over this issue - uniform wearing for those under 16 is the responsibility of the parents not the child, and any punishments they try to enforce can be successfully challenged.

crashdoll Mon 22-Apr-13 18:07:17

I also have no advice but just wanted to say my heart goes out to your neice. How terribly upsetting for her.

Weegiemum Mon 22-Apr-13 18:18:45

It must really come down to the school. My dd1 had talipes (formerly known as talipes) and couldn't wear plimsoles (new carpets so school had an inside school policy). They were great about her keeping her shoes on.

Dd2 had a hip condition that meant no PE, no stairs etc and onc again hey couldn't have done more!

This is a school within Glasgow, but specialist language school so our dc got transport. When the bus stop was moved 1/2 mile away I couldn't walk her to he stop, it wasn't possible. Her consultant at Yorkhill wrote a letter and she was allocated door-to-door taxi transport next day.

Are we talking about private or state, and in what area? There are some parts of Greater Glasgow a bit more insistent on uniform than others!!

ubik Mon 22-Apr-13 18:21:26

Op - perhaps the GP said something along the lines of: "no I cannot give you any medical info concerning X and it is up to her mother what shoes she wears.."?

That isn't giving out medical information

BenjaminButton172 Mon 22-Apr-13 18:23:12

If i cant find out whether my 14 yr old child is on the pill i am pretty sure the head teacher cant find out any info on ur niece.

hope4455 Mon 22-Apr-13 18:23:57

Think it is open now - sorry!!

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