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To think the law should be able to do more about this dog??

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curiousgeorgie Sun 21-Apr-13 21:35:30

Walking in the park today with my DH, 2.5 year old DD & dog, and DD walking in front of us (a very late walker, so very slow and can't run yet), suddenly a mastiff (we think) runs from the trees straight to DD and before we can get there literally steps away, my dog is between them.

It was so so quick but this dog was going for my child, and subsequently absolutely savaged my dog, I grabbed DD, was screaming for the owner and DH was trying to separate this dog from our dog (who is a small friendly breed and was pinned down, yelping, it was awful.)

The owners appeared and pulled the dog off after a few horrible minutes, and argued with us that the dog wasn't dangerous, and the woman got completely in my face and threatened me (while 30 weeks pregnant holding my sobbing DD) so we quickly left.

I called the local police from the car and was told there wasn't anything they can do about the dog as it didn't attack a human. (thank god though.)

But the fact remains, that a dangerous dog is allowed to remain in the park on a sunny weekend day where surely there'll be lots of children??

I'm so so angry and upset about this, my DD is really not herself and my poor dog left with bite injuries to his mouth, ears, face and neck.

Just because this dog didn't quite manage to bite my DD nothing can be done?? AIBU?

pickledginger Mon 22-Apr-13 02:21:02

I don't think you're actually reading the OP or other posts. This is a park. Not a dog park, a park. In the UK. Where dogs can be off lead pretty much anywhere as long as they're not worrying livestock. Like walking along the pavement, or in a public park. Where people take their children to play.

YNK Mon 22-Apr-13 02:21:30

I have read and re read the op. The dog ran up to them nothing more!

Doodledumdums Mon 22-Apr-13 02:23:12

But it wasn't attacked?! Where does it say that her dog attacked the bigger one? Or indeed that the OP was aggressive towards the other owner?

I give up, you clearly haven't actually read the original post. Either that or you are trying to wind people up.

pickledginger Mon 22-Apr-13 02:23:19

You've berated the OP for having her child in a park. A park that will probably have swings etc for children.

You've said there are very few places to let dogs off lead. Not true in the UK.

crazydrunkevilhamster Mon 22-Apr-13 02:27:12

hmm No matter how many times I read the Op it still says the same .
Large dog which was coming across very vicious ran towards a child at which point Ops dog got in between Ops Dd & defended her .
Thank god for your dig protecting your Dd & I hope his injuries aren't to severe .
Also parks are intended for people not dogs to crap where ever they want & run round scaring the crap out of everybody !

hellhasnofurylikeahungrywoman Mon 22-Apr-13 02:28:49

Dogs shouldn't be running up to random people when off lead, they should remain under the firm control of their owner at all times. The owner of the mastiff is responsible for what happened not the OP or her child.

TerraNotSoFirma Mon 22-Apr-13 02:31:34

I feel your opinions are very odd YNK, you refuse to answer the question of where children should play and are just harping on about how they shouldn't be in parks of all things.

Dogs should be kept on leads unless their recall is spot on and no dog should ever be allowed to run up to a child like that.

YNK Mon 22-Apr-13 02:34:15

Every owner I know picks up after their dog. Most parks where I live have childrens play areas fenced off for safety!
Open areas where dogs need to be restrained will have a sign (contact your local council for confirmation).
Yes parks are intended for people and will be used all year round by dog owners.
Running dogs are not scary. They are being exuberant! If the dog was going to attack the child it would not have been distracted by a smaller dog!

YNK Mon 22-Apr-13 02:36:01

I find it very odd that people who only go to the park on sunny days are surprised that dogs will be around!

YNK Mon 22-Apr-13 02:38:35

I don't mind children being in the park if they are happy to say hello to my dog. I do not expect people to bring a defensive unsocialised dog with them to fight in front of a child!
I also take my grandson into the park and he loves to see the dogs running around!

pickledginger Mon 22-Apr-13 02:40:01

Socialised dogs don't run straight at small children.

YNK Mon 22-Apr-13 02:40:39

I have said repeatedly that there are lots of places for children to play!

TerraNotSoFirma Mon 22-Apr-13 02:40:49

Who In. the hell says the people in question only go to t he park on sun n y days?
I have a GSD and the sight of her running full. Tilt would be. Scary to someone who didnt know her.

YNK Mon 22-Apr-13 02:42:11

Why should they not run up to children? Lot's of dogs get good attention from children and my experience is that they are both richer for it!

Doodledumdums Mon 22-Apr-13 02:43:07

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YNK Mon 22-Apr-13 02:44:15

Socialised dogs don't anticipate attack as the first line of defence! They will circle and sniff to see if another dog wants to play. If the other dog attacks they will defend themselves!

pickledginger Mon 22-Apr-13 02:44:35

Not up to, at. Dogs that are socialised and under control don't run straight at small children.

pickledginger Mon 22-Apr-13 02:47:33

It's incredibly common for a dog that has small children in the family to be vigilant and 'mind' them. They appoint themselves as protectors. It's something anyone who has been around dogs would know.

TerraNotSoFirma Mon 22-Apr-13 02:48:00

WHY? Why should you NOT let a large dog run up to a 2yo?

For the love of fuck.

It's like trying to explain something to dougal from father ted.

I'm off to bed.


pickledginger Mon 22-Apr-13 02:48:11

I've run out of benefit of the doubt.

pickledginger Mon 22-Apr-13 02:48:31

Small. Far away.

TerraNotSoFirma Mon 22-Apr-13 02:50:01

Exactly pickled smile goodnight.

Doodledumdums Mon 22-Apr-13 02:53:02

The little dog didn't attack!!!!!! Where does it say that it did?!!!

As a parent, I think that I not only speak for myself when I say that I would very much NOT want any dog running up to my child, and I say that as the owner of a very big, very well behaved and socialised dog, who quite happily runs off lead in the park and does not approach young children or other dogs unless the parents/owners engage him first and we tell him it is okay. That is sensible.

hellhasnofurylikeahungrywoman Mon 22-Apr-13 02:53:30

Why should they not run up to children?

Seriously? Because it can be quite scary to have a random dog run up to you as an adult let alone as a small child.

YNK Mon 22-Apr-13 02:54:32

Exactly my point pickled - it should not have been exposed to dogs running free in those circumstances!
Dogs who love small children will run straight at them/up to them, with no evil intent!
There are plenty of safe places the op could take her toddler. Why on earth would they choose somewhere they were going to demand others change their behavior to suit them? Particularly if they are going to misinterpret their intentions?
It simply does not make sense!

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