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riots over margaret thachers death!

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x2boys Wed 10-Apr-13 10:10:05

AIBU to be thinking if you were not even alive when margaret thatcher was in power why would you be partying over an old womens death?Yes I realise people have very strong feelings over her alleged legacy, but Labour was in power for nearly fourteen years and did nt right her alleged wrongs, its my personal opinon that the Blair/Brown government did far more damage to communities then maggie ever did but thats just a personal opinion.

TigerSwallowtail Wed 10-Apr-13 11:32:16

I couldn't find anything about recent riots over her death on the BBC news app, and a google search only showed the Barbados shop window smashing that mrsrobert has mentioned. I wonder why it hasn't been reported much?

limitedperiodonly Wed 10-Apr-13 11:41:51

It's hasn't been reported much tigerswallowtail because sadly for the media who've got loads of people on riot watch it hasn't kicked off.

Still a week to go before the funeral. There's always hope for those headlines.

x2boys Wed 10-Apr-13 11:52:18

in fact limited period yeah gosh i,m so excited about rioting i could take my three and six yr old with me looting never to young for a criminal record eh? we could burn and smash peoples hard earned buissnesses to the ground and scare the hell out of people just for fun sounds great ooh must look at my rosta and organise it for my next day off gosh wont the kids have fun !!!!!!!!!!!

x2boys Wed 10-Apr-13 12:06:08

and of course it wouldnt matter about me being struck off the NMC register either limited period because i remember during the last riots people seemed more concerned about the rioters lossing their benefits then people losing their homes and buissnesss so i would nt have to work would i because what about my poor kids its not their fault i would be such a moral degenerate they would still need feeding so i would probably just walk away with a slap on the wrist and then be entitled to claim benefits sound like a plan?

AllYoursBabooshka Wed 10-Apr-13 12:06:48

I have that old familiar feeling that I'm missing summit...

What's up seeker?

AllYoursBabooshka Wed 10-Apr-13 12:07:00

X post!

AllYoursBabooshka Wed 10-Apr-13 12:08:04

Nope. Wrong thread entirely.

How embarrassing.

<runs away>

KateDillington Wed 10-Apr-13 12:12:04

A few smashed windows and this sort of drinking in the streets is normal on ANY saturday night. It's just the Mail trying to find a story. Not a riot!! Most of these people celebrating are almost at retirement age anyway!

x2boys Wed 10-Apr-13 12:18:18

anyway limited period i,m afraid i,m so excited about the prospect of a riot i shall have to and prepare [actually i,m on an afternoon shift] but not for long eh gosh its more exciting than xmas!!!!!!!!!!

HappyTurquoise Wed 10-Apr-13 12:21:28

I am praying for snow, ice, hail and rolling thunder to that tune we used to sing St Francis's prayer to in Sunday School. I will be all cosy watching the TV and heckling.

HappyTurquoise Wed 10-Apr-13 12:22:01

I mean for the funeral itself, not in general.

Tau Wed 10-Apr-13 12:45:33

I'm not into rioting, and I do think it's a bit dodgy to throw a party over this senile old woman's death.

But! She was not just an senile old woman. She was an important political figure, and that is the death we are talking about.

Now that she kicked the bucket, Thatcher is being hailed by many, and there will be a respectful wake for her in the cabinet etc.
I see amongst my non-British friends and relatives that in foreign media the praise is way more prominent than the negative remarks.
That's all nice for those who liked her, but there are many who didn't.
And they need to have a good, clear say as well. Just because she is dead doesn't mean everyone has to sit back demurely as if it was all okay what she did. It wasn't. And her ideas are still - or again- very strongly prevalent in this society.

My son's family is Welsh. They deeply resented Thatcher and her politics. Still do. Peoples' lives and communities were destroyed by Thatcher's decisions. People who protested were violently oppressed under her reign. Those people were not heard then, but that doesn't mean they should not be heard now.
Sadly, the majority of those people are still poor and not influential, so it is hard for them to be heard. Of course loads of them are dead or too old to do much, but their descendants may take over. And if they are not heard, and not valued, they may riot.
And of course they will then soon be joined by professional looters.

A method to limit the risk of big riots happening is to create a more equal society, where poor and vulnerable people also feel secure and valued instead of threatened and vilified. But the Tories are authoritarians, so the won't do that. Their solution to everything is more oppression and violence.

But all that aside: I don't think there'll be much rioting this time... but then again; where I live nothing every happens, so I'd think that, would I?

sashh Wed 10-Apr-13 13:11:34

I was five when she came into power and sixteen when she left downing street so her policies did not affect me directly

Deregulating the banks?

Lack of affordable housing?

MRSA because hospital cleaners were sacked and contracts given to companies who were cheap, even though their quotes meant the hospital couldn't be cleaned properly?

Yep that doesn't affect you at all does it?

Jjou Wed 10-Apr-13 13:43:53

There bloody wasn't any rioting in Liverpool! Leave us out of it...

x2boys Thu 11-Apr-13 12:23:19

yes her policies did not directly affect me sashh labours however as an nhs worker for nearly 20 years front line not sat in some cosy office have directly affected me i have seen them and there policies bring the nhs to there knees but thts a whole different story?!

Abra1d Thu 11-Apr-13 12:31:38

Deregulating the banks?----> She had been out of power for years and years when the banking crisis happened. Who was in power when the banking crisis happened? Labour.

Lack of affordable housing?--->Caused largely by an increase in marriage break-ups and people never marrying/not co-habiting, meaning more houses were needed, and by a large increase in population in the south of England owing to immigration during the Blair/Brown years.

MRSA because hospital cleaners were sacked and contracts given to companies who were cheap, even though their quotes meant the hospital couldn't be cleaned properly?---> Caused by hospitals not managing their contracts properly and a failure by nursing management to train nurses to make sure things were being done properly.

delboysfileofax Thu 11-Apr-13 12:40:44

x2boys- judging by your lack of coherent sentence structure, you were clearly effected by her educational policies

x2boys Thu 11-Apr-13 12:46:01

actually no dellboy just lazy typing but very mature comment give you a little kick does it making nasty jibes prhaps you need to get out more and mix with people more matue than your self not a sigle full stop or capital letter but what the hell

x2boys Thu 11-Apr-13 12:47:25

oh and i even spelt single wrong! oh and mature

Feenie Thu 11-Apr-13 13:06:26

A 'friend' has posted the following on my Facebook page:

She was a murderer ! She was a mass murderer ! She protected mass murderers ! She funded mass murderers !

I understand the Pinochet reference, but have no idea what the rest refers to. Can anyone enlighten me? confused

DreamsTurnToGoldDust Thu 11-Apr-13 13:22:16

I presume the murderer part means the Belgrano?

x2boys Thu 11-Apr-13 13:35:24

but was ent the belgrano the argetininan ship she sunk [ i could be wrong and i have had a few roastings for being wrong so feel free to roast me again ] o0r the armed forces sunk that were invading the falkland islands? better than in invading a country that has nothing to do with us and killing millions like that narcacissst blair sorry if my punctuation and spelling is offending you again dellboy!

slug Thu 11-Apr-13 15:42:06

Or the murderers could refer to any of the following, all of whom she supported:

Pol Pot (death toll and estimated 3 million)
Augusto Pinochet (3,000 dead, 29,000 tortured, 1,500 disappeared)
Saddam Hussein (100,000 Kurds as a starting point)
Mohammad Reza Pahlavi (the SAVAK were such fluffy bunnies)
Hosni Mubarak
King Fahd of Saudi Arabia (still beheading women for being raped and hanging men for being gay)
P.W.Botha (because let's face it, Biko just threw himself down those stairs)
General Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq
General Suharto ("One of our very best and most valuable friends" she called him as Kopassus gunned down civilians with British supplied machine guns)

jetsetlil Thu 11-Apr-13 15:56:08

delboysfileofax - that was a snide and spiteful comment.

grovel Thu 11-Apr-13 16:00:16

Well, Delboy spelt affected wrong.

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