Advanced search have a few concerns about my Beaver Leader?

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LovelyMeredith Mon 08-Apr-13 20:48:25

[N.B. I would ask this on the Scouts forum, but can't get any anonymity]

Basically, I started as an Assistant Beaver Leader for my colony in October, and I have a few issues about the lack of effort from my Beaver Leader.

I totally understand that everything she does is on a voluntary basis, and that the amount of paperwork can be A LOT of dedication in itself. I don't mean to go and slag her off, I feel sometimes that the lack of effort she sometimes puts in particularly with coming up with activities does a bit of a disservice to the kids. The activities she comes up with are pretty much the bare minimum, and I've heard the Beavers say a couple of times "We've done this before" and get fed up.

I also sometimes feel she places more value in the "occasional" helpers than she does in me and the fellow Assistant Leader. Her daughter and a few of her friends are occasional helpers, and I feel like they are given more say in the running of the colony than we are just because she's her daughter.

I know from what I have heard that a previous Assistant Leader took issue with the way she ran the colony and left so I know it isn't just me. I'm a tad bit fed up because quite frankly I wonder what on earth I am doing there sometimes, and I don't feel like I'm getting enough support.

Am I justified in feeling like this? I would love to hear from anyone who have been involved in roles like this before.

cocolepew Mon 08-Apr-13 20:49:23

EPIC thread title

amiwhatorhow Mon 08-Apr-13 20:49:28

<childish snicker at 'my beaver' >

sorry op blush

cocolepew Mon 08-Apr-13 20:50:18

Sorry that wasn't very helpful [bush]

HollyBerryBush Mon 08-Apr-13 20:50:23

Not laughing, so not laughing

LovelyMeredith Mon 08-Apr-13 20:50:45

amiwhatorhow - thank goodness I have a sense of humour, just realised how that sounded!

cocolepew Mon 08-Apr-13 20:50:48

Jeez lousie blush


TwoPoundCakePuncher Mon 08-Apr-13 20:50:52

Why dont you make some suggestions for games?

There is a games book in the beavers handbook sets with a load of good game ideas, or google, as the official assistant leader i think you could make more suggestions.

cocolepew Mon 08-Apr-13 20:51:14

I'm in pieces.

amiwhatorhow Mon 08-Apr-13 20:51:50

cocole - me too, can't stop laughing grin

ckwkatie Mon 08-Apr-13 20:52:00

I'd have a word with your Beaver, OP.

Kyrptonite Mon 08-Apr-13 20:52:06

Crying with laughter at thread title.

defineme Mon 08-Apr-13 20:53:33

Ask to take responsibility for planning/leading part of each week's meeting?

TwoPoundCakePuncher Mon 08-Apr-13 20:53:39

Oh god, i now realise im the only one who has given a serious answer... Having to field Beaver jokes from DH constantly means i am immune!

Binkyridesagain Mon 08-Apr-13 20:54:25

I shall attempt to hide my smirk and give a proper answer.

Do you have planning meetings where all sections leaders/helpers have a chance to put forward ideas?

Now I'll Smirk. grin

GentlyGentlyOhDear Mon 08-Apr-13 20:54:57

Do you have termly planning meetings where you all sit down and decide what to do for the upcoming term? You could suggest that all three of the leaders come up with a schedule and perhaps take charge of a couple of activities each?
It does sound like she can't commit fully to the job and perhaps she should think about standing down from being the leader?

MrsHerculePoirot Mon 08-Apr-13 20:56:21

It is frustrating. I was a beaver leader for a fair few years and found it hard work to get everything done, but I had NO support.

Previously as a helper when I was younger we used to have a planning meeting once a half term/term. We had a 'theme' for the half term and worked out rough activities and then were each allocated planning eg me as the other young leader more often than not were allocated/volunteered to prepare the games themed on that week. It was all typed up and very clear who was doing what.

Each week had a similar timetable eg as they came
In they coloured in or drew something or listed things to do with the theme. Then there was time in lodges and intro from leader/register etc perhaps a story or explanation about the evening. Usually some kind of activity - crafty or drama and then a big game. I think we might have have had a drink then back to lodges for notices/song etc...

LovelyMeredith Mon 08-Apr-13 20:56:25

Binkyridesagain - We do have meetings but any suggestions I give tend to be ignored disregard for her own suggestions. Hence why I wonder what the point of being there.

DinoSnores Mon 08-Apr-13 20:58:08

I'm a Guider so I don't know the Scout set up but do you have an equivalent of a District Commissioner to discuss this with?

LovelyMeredith Mon 08-Apr-13 20:58:29

GentlyGentlyOhDear - She had previously talked about standing down and having one of us take over, but that seems to have gone out the window. With the lack of support I've received, I doubt I'd be able to manage running it and would feel in the deep end.

Binkyridesagain Mon 08-Apr-13 21:00:56

Have you tried suggesting that you run an evening? I've been a scout and cub leader and have been were you are but was overruled by the GSL, who wanted a youth club not a scout group, I walked. So not much help.

TwoPoundCakePuncher Mon 08-Apr-13 21:04:05

GSL would be my first port of call

Binkyridesagain Mon 08-Apr-13 21:05:18

IS your GSL involved in any of your planning meetings and has he seen an evening run?

LovelyMeredith Mon 08-Apr-13 21:05:25

Binkyridesagain - That was suggested, I was supposed to be running one evening but that seemed to have gotten forgotten about. She's also the GSL which doesn't help either.

DinoSnores - I did toy with have a chat with the District Commissioner, but I don't particularly want to cause an argument between me and her either.

Almostfifty Mon 08-Apr-13 21:07:45

Could you have a word with your GSL?

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