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To think people should wash their hands?

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DeepPurple Wed 03-Apr-13 16:43:10

In a restaurant with dd at lunch time. I took her to the toilet and a woman took her ds at the same time. We came out of the cubicle first and were hand washing when they came out and walked straight out in to the restaurant.

They sat back at their table and proceeded to eat lunch <vom>

Before anyone days it, they didn't use any anti bac gel or wipes either.

So AIBU? Is this the new thing?

oaks2012 Wed 03-Apr-13 18:41:30

That's not as bad as when I was in a restaurant going to the toilet, one of the chefs come out of the cubicle, straight past the hand basins, out of the door and into the kitchen... I just HOPE (pray) that she was intending to use the kitchen sink to wash her hands <boak>

VerySmallSqueak Wed 03-Apr-13 18:43:14

It depends what persona I'm in.

In everyday life it revolts me when people don't wash their hands after the loo.

But in my outdoorsy persona I can stomach a quite remarkable lack of hygiene.

thornrose Wed 03-Apr-13 18:43:36

Well we now know why there are pissy peanuts in bars. Were you joking Simontowers?

oaks2012 Wed 03-Apr-13 18:43:52

Oh, and about MRSA - I was told that the superbugs have come from the hospitals being too clean -- is that wrong then? I was given a very feasible explanation to why (cant quite remember now - but was from SIL so can find out from her if anyone is interested)

pepperrabbit Wed 03-Apr-13 18:46:34

We were out for lunch at the weekend and I took DD to the loo, we were just starting to wash our hands when a young woman came in, on the phone, she did her business - still on the phone - tutted at us for using the hand drier as she couldn't hear hmm and walked straight out, no hand washing at all.
What really shocked me though, as we followed her down the stairs, was that she picked up a small baby as she got back to her table! Even if you don't care about yourself catching stuff, surely with a say, 4 month old, you'd have a care?
<unhoiks judgey pants>

countrykitten Wed 03-Apr-13 18:46:55

70 will know but I think that sounds dubious. I thought MRSA came from unhygenic, non-handwashing, poo fingered dirtballs a few of whom are posting without shame on here

MyDarlingClementine Wed 03-Apr-13 18:48:04

what if they used tissue to flush and tissue to open door, and didn't want to wash?

MandragoraWurzelstock Wed 03-Apr-13 18:49:07

It's about the ecosystem basically

you have plant life on your hands, on surfaces, on the human's a system, it is fairly balanced and then you interfere with it, by killing off the easier to kill germs, so there's nothing to keep the nastier ones in check. They proliferate - like when you use antibiotics, they destroy the good as well as the bad, but only the super bad ones survive and that's how people get superbugs taking hold.

If I were you (or anyone) I would be avoiding alcohol hand gels like the plague, and washing my hands a bit more often. Especially as loads of germy people have touched the dispensers.

countrykitten Wed 03-Apr-13 18:51:35

MDC but have they wiped? (Please say yes) And if so they should hand wash! Germs from piss and shit permeate loo roll for goodness sake!

MandragoraWurzelstock Wed 03-Apr-13 18:51:35

MRSA is simply a resistant bug

it's evolved partly because of over or misuse of antibiotics afaik

but it is allowed to flourish in situations where other, less dangerous bacteria are not present

and it is spread by people not washing their hands, to rinse it off, as the gels do not kill it OR wash it off iyswim

reliance on the gels is a very bad idea

countrykitten Wed 03-Apr-13 18:52:45

I am in some sort of shock that people don't wash their hands after the loo as a matter of course. I may faint soon.

Happy247 Wed 03-Apr-13 18:55:12

When out of the house with DD we hardly ever wash our hands after visiting the bathroom but use anti b gel once outside. She has SEN and finds the noise of the dryer unbearable...if its only us in the bathroom we will wash and shake to dry!smile Just please be aware that not all children/adults can cope with the sensory overload. grin

OneHandFlapping Wed 03-Apr-13 18:58:55

"what if they used tissue to flush and tissue to open door, and didn't want to wash?"

Tissue is hardly a germ-prood barrier!

countrykitten Wed 03-Apr-13 18:59:05

Why not shake to dry if there are people there too? It seems that the gel is not effective. I hate those bloody dryers too especially the Dyson ones that threaten to take your skin off

OneHandFlapping Wed 03-Apr-13 18:59:13

prood = proof

Happy247 Wed 03-Apr-13 19:08:13

country- somebody might already be using the dryer,(how scary would that be for hersad ) the anticipation... someone is washing their hands and might use the dryer any second, lots of people being in there...her speech and expressive language are improving daily, give DD a month or 2 and she will be able to explain what else scares her!!

countrykitten Wed 03-Apr-13 19:31:38

Yes sorry - I see exactly what you mean!

VerySmallSqueak Wed 03-Apr-13 19:43:28

I really think it's the whole toilet business itself that is filthy.
It's just an abundance of germs in one place.
For sure I wash after using a loo.

But a nice quick pee in a bush has surely got to be a pretty clean affair so long as you don't actually piddle all over your hands?It's not a quick wee that's the problem,it's the breeding places you touch that are associated with it imo.

EmmaGellerGreen Wed 03-Apr-13 20:12:47

Happy got there first! Until a while ago, DS was terrified of hand dryers and consequently of toilets outside homes altogether, especially the thought of someone else using them! So it was always in and out as quickly as possible for us and hand gel when we were clear of the noises. We never died / got ill from toilet germs!

DeepPurple Wed 03-Apr-13 23:24:36

At least you used a hand gel though EmmaGeller! It might not be the best option but at least you did what you could.

I can't believe that some people are openly admitting that they don't wash their hands. Genuine question, do you wash your hands at home after using the loo?

DeepPurple Wed 03-Apr-13 23:27:54

VerySmall, it's funny really cos in an open space the lack of hand washing would bother me less. Probably because there are less likely to be other people's germs teaming everywhere! On the few occasions I have had to do this/take DD, I have tended to either at least use a baby wipe or splash my hands with outlet water. It feels like a nod in the right direction until proper hand washing facilities are available!

I really hate using public toilets only to discover the soap has run out. Shudder.

DeepPurple Wed 03-Apr-13 23:28:33

Outlet water? Bottled of course grin

HoppinMad Wed 03-Apr-13 23:53:23

I always wash hands after using the loo, and have taught dc(3) to do the same, in fact he has to use handwash too or has a meltdown.
Other day he was on the loo (no.2) while I was on the phone, told him to wait just a minute for me to wipe and wash him (messy bugger), but he decided to jump off the toilet straight after his business, whipped pants up but washed his hands WITH soap grin so proud sniff

I am a bit anal about try and avoid public toilets, as the thought of other peoples germs all over toilet handle/cubicle doors etc has me in a cold sweat. I have ishoos, I know.

ZebraOwl Thu 04-Apr-13 00:24:52

Lots of people have MRSA just hanging out on their skin doing no damage/causing no trouble: they do swabs to check if you're MRSA+ before planned hospital admissions (esp surgical ones!) so they can take necessary precautions to prevent it starting to Cause Trouble.

As to handwashing, I accidentally made a woman think I was telling her off when I was in fact directing a Brownie to wash her hands after she'd been to the loo. Thankfully she looked mortified & headed back to the sinks rather than coming & giving me a slap with her manky dirty nasty hands. On another Brownie Trip I got asked if I'm a doctor whilst I was in the loos at the museum we were visiting because of how thoroughly I wash my hands...

countrykitten Thu 04-Apr-13 08:08:02

Some folks are just plain dirty.

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