# Talk

## To think it's time the UK went truly metric.

(92 Posts)
complexnumber Thu 28-Mar-13 15:21:16

Partially inspired by another thread about the size of tv's being quoted in inches.

I know that is a trivial example, but isn't it time we finally dropped the imperial measurements completely?

Just about every other country in the world has managed it. Why can't we?

We (the UK that is) have been dithering since 1965, that's pathetic.

(However, I do confess to wanting my beer served by the pint.)

I moved here from the US, where about the only thing done in metrics is large bottles of soda pop. It took a short while to get used to the metric measurements - I mean, to get an idea of how big things were in my head - but I am now fully converted.

Weighing ingredients makes so much more sense than worrying about leveling off cups and the maths on per-unit pricing at the supermarket is much easier.

Also, I've discovered that non-metric measurements aren't the same around the world. I think gallons and pints are different in the UK and the US, so that makes for added confusion.

Go metric, I say!

nagynolonger Fri 29-Mar-13 06:31:41

DH is an engineer so has used metric for decades at work. I'm sure he thinks metric. He can easily switch to imperial of course because that's what he was taught at school.

I learnt all the imperial measures at junior school and was very confused when all our new maths text books at secondary were cm and metres. So I went from doing sums in bases 3,8,12,14,16 and all the necessary times tables to working in base 10 only. It was much easier but even as a child I thought it was dumming down! Everyone of my age had to learn that 12 old pennies made a shilling, and 20 shillings made a pound and similar for weights and distance. I'm certain having to work out how imperial measures work to do everything made us better at arithmatic.

I have no trouble with metric it is easy, but still cook in imperial because it's easier IMO. For a basic baking I never use scales because a table spoon is equal to 1 oz. I always convert to imperial for cooking.

Baby weights in imperial are much nicer too. I know they were all weighed in metric and it was converted to lbs and oz. It's the lb and oz everyone wants to know.

We will be using miles for distance until the roadsigns change and there are better things to spend money on at present.

OneLieIn Fri 29-Mar-13 05:22:05

Lol zwischenzug

OneLieIn Fri 29-Mar-13 05:21:22

It's part of our eccentricity

I love the fact I can weigh in stones and pounds, but can make a cake in grammes.

Plus I love the fact hot is 80 and cold is 0, it's like we have a while new range.

And I love inches, they describe things much better

Fri 29-Mar-13 04:55:20

ElectricalBanana

I feel your pain. I used to get a sixpence for 'tuck' when the money changed I only got a 2p. Not that I hold a grudge.

OK all of you wanting to keep imperial here's an experiment. Do you have milk in the fridge? Before you go look guess where the label that tells you it is a pint or 2 pints is - then go look.

Unless you still have bottles delivered you will find a plastic container that just says milk. The 'pint' is the last thing on the back of the label.

SneezingwakestheJesus Fri 29-Mar-13 01:56:47

YABU. I don't think its that hard to know two different ways of measuring. I laaaaike having the choice.

ToysRLuv Fri 29-Mar-13 01:35:20

Meant to say YANBU.

ToysRLuv Fri 29-Mar-13 01:34:30

. Imperial measures are confusing and illogical. Fun for history of science lessons, but not for everyday life. But I'm a weirdie (as dh puts it) foreigner, so what do I know..

Also, please, get completely rid of the ridiculous 2 taps (choice of washing your hands with freezing or boiling water), drive on right and use normal 2 pronged electric plugs (I won't dare mention the Euro).

Thu 28-Mar-13 23:37:53

Another 23yo who uses both and gets confused! I weigh myself in kg these days, use American measuring cups, judge height in metres but length in ft.

I couldn't tell you what imperial and metric cover though, I just know that I use them interchangeably!

zwischenzug Thu 28-Mar-13 22:31:01

Everyone knows 6 inches is a reasonable amount and 9 inches is pretty damn good.

WMittens Thu 28-Mar-13 22:04:08

If the weatherman says 10 cms, it sounds deep, but say 4 inches and it's not so much.

Just because the number is bigger? So if the forecaster said it was going to be a tenth of a metre, would you think it was going to be a light dusting of snow?

ethelb Thu 28-Mar-13 21:56:36

Sorry 100.

NUFC69 Thu 28-Mar-13 21:56:21

I get really irritated when they tell us that we are going to have xx cms of snow - if you say it in inches it sounds much less. If the weatherman says 10 cms, it sounds deep, but say 4 inches and it's not so much. I am sure we started having trouble with driving during the winter when we changed to metric!

ethelb Thu 28-Mar-13 21:56:20

People saying they cant do metric baking, a quarter (or 4oz) can be substituted for 100g. So divide by four and times by 10.

WMittens Thu 28-Mar-13 21:54:00

50 miles per gallon sounds more impressive than 11 miles per litre.

Shouldn't it be kilometres per litre? Also, the metric measurement is (sometimes) about fuel consumption (litres per 100km) rather than fuel economy (mpg or km/l).

zwischenzug Thu 28-Mar-13 21:12:16

When you buy a car they tell you the mpg, but petrol is bought by the litre?

£1.40/litre sounds cheaper than £6.36/gallon.

50 miles per gallon sounds more impressive than 11 miles per litre.

pmgkt Thu 28-Mar-13 20:56:38

When you buy a car they tell you the mpg, but petrol is bought by the litre?

NewBlueShoes Thu 28-Mar-13 20:53:35

I can make a cake using imperial weights in minutes, in metric not a hope.
Surely imperial exercises your brain more with all the 12's, 14's, 16's?

HHH3 Thu 28-Mar-13 20:48:59

Oh, and we learnt centigrade. Is that imperial or metric?

HHH3 Thu 28-Mar-13 20:46:44

When I was at school (I'm 36) we learnt...

cm and metres
grams and kg
litres and ml

Are they all metric?

In everyday life I measure in...

feet and inches for height
miles for distance
lbs and oz for weight
grams and kg for things like recipes but only if that's how it's written
oz when doing things such as baby bottles
still say a pint of milk/beer

I'm completely confused

Thu 28-Mar-13 20:15:49

alanyoung, you do realise that your argument doesn't get better because you change your name, don't you?

zwischenzug Thu 28-Mar-13 20:15:39

I agree we should go metric, mainly to piss off all the old dodderers who still give temperatures in Fahrenheit instead of the post 1950s version (Celsius).

Sure I could learn the Fahrenheit scale so I could understand them, but why the fuck should I just because they want to hark back to the days of Elvis Presley.

ReallyTired Thu 28-Mar-13 20:10:35

Metric is far more practical for every day living because it is base 10 like our number system.

However I feel that law enforcement people are better spending their time stopping rapists or burlgers than some market trader who wants to use pounds and ounces.

I believe that imperial will die a gradual death and is more like to survive if its banned.

GreenEggsAndNichts Thu 28-Mar-13 20:07:51

yes, and yes, to Tiggy's posts. Once it clicks, metric is so ridiculously easy. I honestly don't understand people who think imperial is easier.

Since someone upthread asked, there are pints in the US. They are, however, 16 ounces, whereas I think UK ones are 20? It's another good example of the confusion left with other measuring systems. There are also ounces by weight versus liquid ounces in the US.

I am American and I completely embrace the metric system. I don't think we should stick with archaic systems simply because we were all forced to learn them as children when there is a far simpler, more efficient system out there. I admit, it takes some time to get used to it, saying you want 450 grams instead of a pound of something at the deli, but it is certainly possible!

Thu 28-Mar-13 20:01:35

Much of metric is about suffixes. 100 centimetre to a metre, 100 centilitres to a litre.

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